Waldorf Kyra

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Trancer
KVRist
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333 posts since 7 Aug, 2018

Post Fri May 06, 2022 10:33 pm

Last night I listened to the Waldorf Kyra, it's still a superb machine, the twins of the Virus ti2.

But how it sounds.

A duplicate of the Virus, but a nice big sound.

I almost bought it at the time.

Unfortunately Waldorf never followed up on this machine and that's a shame, it had potential.

A lot of stability issues and bugs according to the opinions and the quality of the encoders over time is not the most certain.

https://youtu.be/WytsbF3Bomo

https://youtu.be/7rFf46aO47c

https://youtu.be/_vNP-YGaQIk

https://youtu.be/1RETtniQCKs

OllieBoi
KVRist
41 posts since 3 May, 2022

Post Sat May 07, 2022 12:07 am

Trancer wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 10:33 pm Last night I listened to the Waldorf Kyra, it's still a superb machine, the twins of the Virus ti2.

But how it sounds.

A duplicate of the Virus, but a nice big sound.

I almost bought it at the time.

Unfortunately Waldorf never followed up on this machine and that's a shame, it had potential.

A lot of stability issues and bugs according to the opinions and the quality of the encoders over time is not the most certain.
That's the story of almost every Waldorf synth since the Q: Riddled with bugs upon release and questions about the reliability of the encoders. The good news is that unlike some hardware synth manufacturers, Waldorf does manage to eventually fix most of the bugs. And the worries about the longevity of the encoders are usually overblown (like they were with the Blofeld and Pulse 2).

As an aside, I bought my MicroWave II XT in 2012 and stupidly sold it in 2017 thinking I could replace it with plugins. But while I had it, the XT worked flawlessly. The encoders were great. (All synths should use encoders rather than pots, IMO.)

Anyway, I bet the Kyra would make a fine synth. It sure sounds good. I'd say better than Dune 3 or Spire which I own.

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KVRist
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333 posts since 7 Aug, 2018

Post Sat May 07, 2022 2:10 am

Thanks for your return.

Waldorf really makes great machines.

Most certainly durable over time, but it is true that what we see on the facade of the Kyra, it seems interesting fragile.

Very clearly superior to vst, even if the two you name are a killer, I also have them.

Too bad that the Kyra would duplicate the Virus Ti2 and also a shame that no more development at all from Waldorf.

Despite this he sends the sacred sound. A very nice machine.

chk071
KVRAF
31651 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat May 07, 2022 2:59 am

Trancer wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 10:33 pm Last night I listened to the Waldorf Kyra, it's still a superb machine, the twins of the Virus ti2.

But how it sounds.

A duplicate of the Virus, but a nice big sound.
Frankly, I think the Virus sounds much, MUCH bigger.

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KVRist
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333 posts since 7 Aug, 2018

Post Sat May 07, 2022 3:06 am

Thanks for your return.

I know the Virus Ti2 well, it sounds very fat and has a huge presence.

The Kyra still has a very good sound and a very nice sound palette too.

The Virus will always be one of a kind and irreplaceable, but the Kyra is a beautiful twin 😊

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KVRian
504 posts since 23 Jan, 2008 from Hamburg, Germany

Post Wed May 11, 2022 6:39 am

Support might be an issue. Like others have said: Don't expect to get anything beyond what you've got when you bought the synth.

The Iridium Keyboard got some nice new features that are also very useful for the desktop version. Also a few of the bugs were fixed. I've asked the support and the forum if we desktop users also get the update but that's the same as throwing words into a black hole. No feedback at all.

Quantum owners are still waiting for the promised V3 firmware. It went into a closed beta two years ago but nothing happened since then.

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KVRist
Topic Starter
333 posts since 7 Aug, 2018

Post Wed May 11, 2022 6:49 am

Thank you for your answers.

To my greatest regret, Waldord is not very diligent in making updates, and that's a shame.

The Kyra could bring so much more, fix some bugs and also for the iridium.

Superb machines, but barely created they are already abandoned, a real waste.

Waldord is a company that I like, but here really disappointing.

Fantastic machines with immense potentials and discarded as early created.

I had seen on a YouTube video a comment about a hypothetical update planned four months ago.

I highly doubt it, a three-year-old machine that has never had a major update will never have one and that is really unfortunate.

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cryophonik
KVRAF
8021 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA

Post Wed May 11, 2022 10:40 am

Well, to be fair, Access hasn’t updated the Virus in years, either (2017, I believe). And they still sell it as Mac-compatible, even though it’s been completely incompatible since Catalina.

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KVRist
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333 posts since 7 Aug, 2018

Post Fri May 13, 2022 9:33 pm

Absolutely, no more updates.

I have a Virus Ti2 and despite no more updates, it is fully functional and works perfectly well with Windows 10.

The Kyra, unfortunately, lacks an update to fix certain bugs and above all to be able to correctly exploit its full potential.

Unfortunately, Waldorf has this annoying tendency not to do what is necessary to make its machines functional and to make them evolve,

But despite everything, I really like this Kyra, but duplicate with my Virus Ti2.

Even if the sounds are not all quite the same.

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Boy Wonder
KVRist
74 posts since 30 Jan, 2021

Post Sat May 14, 2022 12:50 pm

If I had the money, the Kyra would be the machine I'd probably get as it appears to have the main things I'm looking for - multitimbrality, arpeggiator, lots of knobs, lots of waveforms, tabletop, virtual analog, etc. etc.

Trancer
KVRist
Topic Starter
333 posts since 7 Aug, 2018

Post Sat May 14, 2022 2:12 pm

Thank you for your reply.

She must be a good machine.

I hesitated to take it as a ti2 virus for fear of a duplicate.

If you have to take one, the first choice is the Virus Ti2 without hesitation.

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