Bitwig 4.3 announced 'space and tone' - a new reverb and delay...

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SLiC
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8684 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue May 10, 2022 5:33 am

''The next update is on its way! Bitwig Studio 4.3 brings space and tone with two new devices — Convolution and Delay+ — as well as some upgrades to our existing synths. Watch the teaser video or head to our website to learn more.''

https://www.bitwig.com/whats-new/?utm_s ... 2c471df6c5

Personally I am not bothering with this one (again, I skipped 4.2) I don't need new fx as the main new features...but nice to have 'lower down' the list. I can't help but feel the updates are getting less interesting and with less content...

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summer2000
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412 posts since 25 Dec, 2002

Post Tue May 10, 2022 5:50 am

Not updating either until MIDI comping is a thing in Bitwig.
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ckam03
KVRian
666 posts since 11 May, 2014

Post Tue May 10, 2022 5:52 am

I agree. I think it's lame having new devices as the headlining feature. I'm still on 3.3 though so I might update but I've been using Reaper more and more lately so I'm not really in any rush.

pizzatime
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94 posts since 4 May, 2020

Post Tue May 10, 2022 5:56 am

It is not a major update - these small regular updates most people into Bitwig seem to prefer - I definitely do..

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_leras
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1133 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Post Tue May 10, 2022 6:21 am

I like it! Way to go Bitwig.

Looking forward to the new delay.

SLiC
KVRAF
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8684 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue May 10, 2022 6:21 am

Cool if you already have an active plan, but not inspiring mew to buy one...
The Convo reverb they added doesn't seem to have a lot of that 'thinking out of the box' bigwig magic, seems a little vanilla (my open up in the Grid I guess). The Live one is actually more interesting and feature rich IMHO but still, a good reverb was necessary in Bitwig to make all the included pre-sets sound better!

I just wish there was more interesting DAW stuff with this, it seems like it should be further down the list!

Space (reverb/delay) and tone?
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_leras
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1133 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Post Tue May 10, 2022 7:15 am

SLiC wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 6:21 am Cool if you already have an active plan, but not inspiring mew to buy one...
The Convo reverb they added doesn't seem to have a lot of that 'thinking out of the box' bigwig magic, seems a little vanilla (my open up in the Grid I guess). The Live one is actually more interesting and feature rich IMHO but still, a good reverb was necessary in Bitwig to make all the included pre-sets sound better!

I just wish there was more interesting DAW stuff with this, it seems like it should be further down the list!

Space (reverb/delay) and tone?
4.0 or 4.1 were more natural points to renew a plan for sure. I might not upgrade for a delay/verb, but there are other improvements as well.

I like that keep making incremental updates.

ckam03
KVRian
666 posts since 11 May, 2014

Post Tue May 10, 2022 7:21 am

Actually after watching Polarity's stream, I'm dying to update now. Feels like there's so much I'm missing out on being on 3.3

liquidsound
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3557 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Post Tue May 10, 2022 7:29 am

They found a way to sell plugins via a DAW… :clap:
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_leras
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1133 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Post Tue May 10, 2022 7:36 am

liquidsound wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:29 am They found a way to sell plugins via a DAW… :clap:
Err.... no. They are just improving the offering of plug ins they have in their DAW.

Artie Fichelle
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66 posts since 28 Nov, 2004

Post Tue May 10, 2022 7:49 am

Bitwig a mule of a daw! But actually I prefer the concept of third parties providing plugins. That is why the vst concept was so great.
artie fichelle sounds natural

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KVRAF
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8684 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue May 10, 2022 8:17 am

_leras wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:15 am
SLiC wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 6:21 am Cool if you already have an active plan, but not inspiring mew to buy one...
The Convo reverb they added doesn't seem to have a lot of that 'thinking out of the box' bigwig magic, seems a little vanilla (my open up in the Grid I guess). The Live one is actually more interesting and feature rich IMHO but still, a good reverb was necessary in Bitwig to make all the included pre-sets sound better!

I just wish there was more interesting DAW stuff with this, it seems like it should be further down the list!

Space (reverb/delay) and tone?
4.0 or 4.1 were more natural points to renew a plan for sure. I might not upgrade for a delay/verb, but there are other improvements as well.

I like that keep making incremental updates.
Yeh, I will no doubt end up updating just for the small workflow improvements....but this isnt a 'must have' for me, just a nice to have... maybe I'll jump back in after its launched, but I could easily wait for the next one without feeling like I am missing anything vital being on 4.2.
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dupont
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1203 posts since 23 Jun, 2007

Post Tue May 10, 2022 8:34 am

nice addition, no reverse audio effect ?,let say I want ot reverse a kick during a live set.

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pdxindy
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21266 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Tue May 10, 2022 8:37 am

_leras wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:15 am 4.0 or 4.1 were more natural points to renew a plan for sure. I might not upgrade for a delay/verb, but there are other improvements as well.

I like that keep making incremental updates.
I use the Bitwig Instruments including the Grid a lot so this has plenty of useful new stuff for me. The filter improvements are solid. Updated envelopes, and the Convolution and Delay+ sound excellent. Really cool to just drag any audio into the Convolution device!

And that is a solid overall changelog for just 3 months since 4.2

liquidsound
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3557 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Post Tue May 10, 2022 9:50 am

_leras wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:36 am
liquidsound wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:29 am They found a way to sell plugins via a DAW… :clap:
Err.... no. They are just improving the offering of plug ins they have in their DAW.
How about a Midi Comping plugin? :hihi:
Or MIDI Capture, Audio to MIDI, Groove Pool, Pianoroll Scales, MSEG (not my priority really), Slicing in the Sample (that's a real improvement...) etc.

I'm quite convinced that a substantial number of Live users (like me) would lean toward a more committed use of BW for most of their work.

BW is not on my front burner but it could be if the "Improving" efforts would spread on the DAW workflow as well.

Convolution though, is a WELCOMED addition :tu:
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