DIVA and REPRO 1 & 5

[mothra]

I'm very happy having both synth. Never felt that one could replace the other.

Exactly. If you want a Prophet, get Repro. If you want a workhorse modular 'jack of all trades' type architecture, get Diva instead.

[spnc]

Hey guys using latest Ableton/Repro 1-5 with Macbook M1 and they constantly crash every now and then when closing the window or saving preset.

Anyone found a way to make it work without crashes? So annoying it really ruins my workflow.

I re/installed again from the website yet the installer seems to still be the same old version from 2021.

I really hope they came with an 2022/2023 update as I feel like it's no longer up-to-date with Apple's latest specs (hence the crashing on M1s).

We really need this CLAP thing going live with u-he, like yesterday...

Repro is the only plugin crashing out of my 500 others I tested. I think Diva is fine.

[spnc]

Okay I found the issue. I no longer press (x) close window and instead use the Ableton tool button to hide/unhide Repro 1/5.



Problem seems to be gone (I pressed 50 times in a row to double check, so far no crash).

Will report if the problem comes back.

Can't believe u-he didn't fix this simple issue in such a long time, crazy imagine the number of people whose life has been annoyed by this lol

[Stopani]

Diva is a brilliantly coded work horse. Repro1/5 are are like specialised versions. They do work well together

[vurt]

Okay I found the issue. I no longer press (x) close window and instead use the Ableton tool button to hide/unhide Repro 1/5.



Problem seems to be gone (I pressed 50 times in a row to double check, so far no crash).

Will report if the problem comes back.

Can't believe u-he didn't fix this simple issue in such a long time, crazy imagine the number of people whose life has been annoyed by this lol

have you reported it to support?

[himalaya]

Repro is based on electronics of synths that have an insane modulation depth - they're not a sweetspot synths per sé even if they have many of those. Diva is very tame in comparison as everything is built around the parameters and modulation depths of a very "tame" sweet spot synth. I think it's fair to say that Diva puts emphasis on the mellow side of analogue whereas Repro has all those harsh, gritty and wild properties.

Diva's MS-20 wild and filthy filters want to have a word with you.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Repro is based on electronics of synths that have an insane modulation depth - they're not a sweetspot synths per sé even if they have many of those. Diva is very tame in comparison as everything is built around the parameters and modulation depths of a very "tame" sweet spot synth. I think it's fair to say that Diva puts emphasis on the mellow side of analogue whereas Repro has all those harsh, gritty and wild properties.

Diva's MS-20 wild and filthy filters want to have a word with you.

Now imagine those filters combined with the much greater audio-rate modulation depth ranges of RePro-5. THAT would be extra filthy.

[himalaya]

Are we suggesting a new synth to Urs then?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Are we suggesting a new synth to Urs then?

Nah...just throw it on the list for a DIVA 2 someday. Sounds like it's already something Urs has thought about. Throw in separate Octave, Coarse, and Fine tune knobs with a center value of 64 (currently it's 63) and I'd be thrilled!

Sorry...can't let that last one go whenever anything future-DIVA comes up.

[vurt]

Are we suggesting a new synth to Urs then?

Nah...just throw it on the list for a DIVA 2 someday. Sounds like it's already something Urs has thought about. Throw in separate Octave, Coarse, and Fine tune knobs with a center value of 64 (currently it's 63) and I'd be thrilled!

Sorry...can't let that last one go whenever anything future-DIVA comes up.

but it's 0-127, so 63 is correct.
it's not 1-128.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

but it's 0-127, so 63 is correct.
it's not 1-128.

63 is indeed technically correct for the reason you describe: MIDI starts at 0, not 1. But in the real-world, MIDI device and synth manufacturers decided that MIDI knobs with a center detent would transmit values of 64 when centered. Which means Diva is sharp whenever I center the Coarse and Fine Tune MIDI knobs on my System-8.

I understand that you and Urs are clearly better at math than Roland engineers , but I think Diva should be able to conform to the admittedly bizarre choice made by hardware device manufacturers when it comes to it's MIDI learn. Heck, it can be a preference: "center tune value: 63 or 64"! I'd take that. Just do a little transforming behind the scenes when the value is 64 to offset a little.

[vurt]

better than you as well, it's maths, there's more than one!

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

better than you as well, it's maths, there's more than one!

I assure you: being better at math (I'm never adding an s to that ever) than me is no difficult feat. The average 5th grader is better at math than I am.

[vurt]

better than you as well, it's maths, there's more than one!

I assure you: being better at math (I'm never adding an s to that ever) than me is no difficult feat. The average 5th grader is better at math than I am.

tbh im ok with basic arithmetic these days, but anything more i seem to have forgotten everything i learned.
missus grandkid gets homework and it's bloody hard!! she's 8

[vurt]

also, if i start seeing evidence you've started using the s in maths, ill join in helping you get 63 moved to 64.

let's see which of these two is most important to you!!