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kvotchin
KVRian
865 posts since 9 Aug, 2018

Post Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:07 pm

SlickEQ Mastering and a couple of iOS apps is all. Total < $20.

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jens
KVRAF
22316 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:32 pm

plexuss wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:48 pm
jens wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 pm I just ended up purchasing BFD (~40€ for me) and am shocked at how terrible it sounds... dunno - the youtube videos I watched didn't seem to be half bad - but here it all sounds like cheap GM-Kits to me - totally unuseable here. :?

Can anybody recommend an add-on BDF-kit/-library that doesn't suck?
For refernce here are a couple tracks of mine that use BDF3. To me it sounds good. So lets compare notes:

https://plexus.bandcamp.com/track/spirit

https://plexus.bandcamp.com/track/crims-kingdom

Yeah, you manage to get away with it because for your music it doesn't matter that it doesn't sound like real drums... for mine however it DOES matter - a lot. I make much more traditional stuff.
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plexuss
KVRAF
5522 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:01 pm

jens wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:32 pm
plexuss wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:48 pm
jens wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 pm I just ended up purchasing BFD (~40€ for me) and am shocked at how terrible it sounds... dunno - the youtube videos I watched didn't seem to be half bad - but here it all sounds like cheap GM-Kits to me - totally unuseable here. :?

Can anybody recommend an add-on BDF-kit/-library that doesn't suck?
For refernce here are a couple tracks of mine that use BDF3. To me it sounds good. So lets compare notes:

https://plexus.bandcamp.com/track/spirit

https://plexus.bandcamp.com/track/crims-kingdom

Yeah, you manage to get away with it because for your music it doesn't matter that it doesn't sound like real drums... for mine however it DOES matter - a lot. I make much more traditional stuff.
BFD definitely still has a bit of sampled drum to it's sound, but not as much as many other sampled drum solutions. You may need to go with a real life kit to get what you are after. Good luck in your search.

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jens
KVRAF
22316 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:02 pm

I am not searching - I have Superior 3 (with several extensions), AD2 (with most extensions), Modo Drum 1.5 and Ujam VD Solid. They all sound a lot more real to me than BFD3. (Even if AD2 and Solid do less than the other two... - I usually prefer DS3 for production, but Modo is the most fun to play with with a Kit for me because it seems to react more naturally than the others.)
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ApexSoundMusic
KVRist
33 posts since 14 May, 2020

Post Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:17 am

Had some black friday success as well this year :)

Sonnox Claro ($34) with free UVI model D
Rob Papen Explorer Bundle upgrade $74
Melody Sauce 2 upgarde €9
Sublab plugin with the 2 month loopcloud subscription for $2
Audiodamge OtherDesertCities & Pumphouse on IOS (€7,20)
Grabbed some Echoyboy presets at audiotent as well as a new sample pack at MyLoops
And as a bonus: Soundtoys little Radator + Hornet Sybilla and all Synthmaster One IOS presets for free

The Claro & Explorer Bundle deals are the winners for me ;)

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jens
KVRAF
22316 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:31 am

jens wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 pm Can anybody recommend an add-on BDF-kit/-library that doesn't suck?
All good now - I purchased the Vintage Recording Techniques one (which is one of the newest and biggest and for me only about 30€ right now) and it sounds to much better to me - mind you: some of older extensions are only something like 600-800mb in size....
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Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
10531 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:47 am

Just a few days ago in a different thread someone was insisting Line6 Helix never goes on sale and exists solely to sell the hardware. To which I said something like, "I'm pretty sure it was on sale last year." Well, it's 50% off right now. So if you're that person, there you go!

imrae
KVRAF
2301 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Post Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:07 am

I went with Blue II (with free upgrade to III), ATLAS and the One Man Tribe samples. Looking to also grab a Goldbaby pack but it's hard to choose :D

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standalone
KVRAF
5794 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there

Post Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:45 am

jens wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:31 am
jens wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 pm Can anybody recommend an add-on BDF-kit/-library that doesn't suck?
All good now - I purchased the Vintage Recording Techniques one (which is one of the newest and biggest and for me only about 30€ right now) and it sounds to much better to me - mind you: some of older extensions are only something like 600-800mb in size....
If I remember it well, the older kits only have one sample per velocity layer, and then the engine jumps between layers so that no sample is played twice in a row. A very old approach to round robin. I think they have up to 127 layers per instrument, though.
"A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig."

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
5504 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:23 pm

I would love to see a sale by Arturia of a Fragments and Coldfire bundle.
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... s/overview
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... e/overview

soulata
KVRAF
2914 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia

Post Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:55 am

I'm looking at Neural DSP stuff. Cory and Tone King. I can get both under 100eur now. But I'm not 100% sure I need them.

gaf_thit
KVRian
816 posts since 28 Sep, 2012 from Norway

Post Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:22 am

soulata wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:55 am "... But I'm not 100% sure I need them."
But do you want them? :hihi:
Feed the GAS :party:

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e@rs
KVRAF
5383 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania

Post Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:24 am

Purchased:

- Plogue chipsynth OPS7 (impulse buy) + chipcrusher (wanted it for years);
- Ujam Heavy 2 (impulse buy; needed some real drums in my arsenal);
- Cableguys ShaperBox 3 upgrade.

Was tempted by TAL J-8 and Devious Machines Infiltrator 2, but resisted.

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standalone
KVRAF
5794 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there

Post Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:25 am

soulata wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:55 am I'm looking at Neural DSP stuff. Cory and Tone King. I can get both under 100eur now. But I'm not 100% sure I need them.
Don't overlook Plini. Even metal guitarists prefer it over the rest.
"A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig."

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VELLTONE MUSIC
KVRAF
1759 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future

Post Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:29 am

I wanted to like and buy Phase plant or Pigments for 99 euro,but their sound is somehow neither impressive nor inspirational to my taste ...
Then start to look for some unique synth and found something old, but super nice and cheap with bonus another synth for less than a beer and chips hahahha :)
I have most of AIR Music Technology products,but some are favorites.
Highly recommend these two discounts:
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... tructure-2
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... 60-Xpand-2

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