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aMUSEd wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:13 am I’m on an Apple Studio Display and in places it is definitely blurry when over 100% scaling- not hideously but it could be a lot better
Same here. I’m only on a quad HD display but any scale setting above 100% makes the knob controls look jagged around the edges

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thanks for this thread! i thought about getting vps avanger in the recent sale, but i figured i already have a quite complex synth i never really used (mainly due to cpu-hunger) :lol: now that i have a mac mini m2 i finally can and should explore alchemy.

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audio/fault wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:30 am thanks for this thread! i thought about getting vps avanger in the recent sale, but i figured i already have a quite complex synth i never really used (mainly due to cpu-hunger) :lol: now that i have a mac mini m2 i finally can and should explore alchemy.
Excellent! Typically, whenever I am contemplating any new purchase I deep dive into Logic Pro again and 8 times out of 10 I find that Logic has got it covered :party:

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audio/fault wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:30 am thanks for this thread! i thought about getting vps avanger in the recent sale, but i figured i already have a quite complex synth i never really used (mainly due to cpu-hunger) :lol: now that i have a mac mini m2 i finally can and should explore alchemy.
Alchemy is fantastic!

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Agree also! Snarkiness is a total waste of time since clearly Sylenth sounds wayyyyyy fatter than Alchemy.
Case closed.

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N 4 LIFE wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:08 pm Agree also! Snarkiness is a total waste of time since clearly Sylenth sounds wayyyyyy fatter than Alchemy.
Case closed.
You mean Sylenth sounds flabby and out of shape... :hihi:

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dumbledog wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:57 pm I've tried puttering around with Alchemy time to time vsince it came to Logic and damn if a synth could make me feel like an idiot it's this one. Zillions of controls to the point where I had trouble even groking the signal flow, and a gigantic decision space to where I don't know where to start making a sound do what I'm wanting it to.

Do folks think maybe PIgments has largely encroached upon Alchemy's soundspace, maybe not precisely but mostly overlapping? I found Pigments to be a lot more intuitive.
Yes and no - it’s definitely a sound designers wet dream as Alchemy was, and like Alchemy has inspired some fantastic sound design because of that. What it mainly lacks is the additive and spectral resynthesis, spectral synthesis and morphing- those things remain Alchemy’s pretty much unique selling point in a user friendly synth - only a few things like CSound and Kyma do it better but they are much more specialised, not to mention complicated. Halion 7 now has probably more faithful spectral resynthesis but not morphing and I hate Halion’s clunky interface.
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LFO8 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:56 am
audio/fault wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:30 am thanks for this thread! i thought about getting vps avanger in the recent sale, but i figured i already have a quite complex synth i never really used (mainly due to cpu-hunger) :lol: now that i have a mac mini m2 i finally can and should explore alchemy.
Excellent! Typically, whenever I am contemplating any new purchase I deep dive into Logic Pro again and 8 times out of 10 I find that Logic has got it covered :party:
Auto Sampler is quite useful on Logic. Makes it so easy to sample other instruments and make Sampler patches from them. Of course the samples can be imported into Alchemy too if you want to morph them. Then it is easy to set up those morph variations as articulations which can be applied to specific notes.

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:23 pm
LFO8 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:56 am
audio/fault wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:30 am thanks for this thread! i thought about getting vps avanger in the recent sale, but i figured i already have a quite complex synth i never really used (mainly due to cpu-hunger) :lol: now that i have a mac mini m2 i finally can and should explore alchemy.
Excellent! Typically, whenever I am contemplating any new purchase I deep dive into Logic Pro again and 8 times out of 10 I find that Logic has got it covered :party:
Auto Sampler is quite useful on Logic. Makes it so easy to sample other instruments and make Sampler patches from them. Of course the samples can be imported into Alchemy too if you want to morph them. Then it is easy to set up those morph variations as articulations which can be applied to specific notes.
Yaaassss!

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:23 pm
Auto Sampler is quite useful on Logic. Makes it so easy to sample other instruments and make Sampler patches from them. Of course the samples can be imported into Alchemy too if you want to morph them. Then it is easy to set up those morph variations as articulations which can be applied to specific notes.
Especially cool to sample your own hardware synths (which have no preset system).

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aMUSEd wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:20 pm Yes and no - it’s definitely a sound designers wet dream as Alchemy was, and like Alchemy has inspired some fantastic sound design because of that. What it mainly lacks is the additive and spectral resynthesis, spectral synthesis and morphing- those things remain Alchemy’s pretty much unique selling point in a user friendly synth - only a few things like CSound and Kyma do it better but they are much more specialised, not to mention complicated. Halion 7 now has probably more faithful spectral resynthesis but not morphing and I hate Halion’s clunky interface.
I don't know anything about spectral synthesis, so that may be where my stumbling block is. Off to the 'tubes for some intro videos I suppose.
pdxindy wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:19 pm flabby and out of shape
Hey don't doxx me :cry:

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https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/m ... 419792/mac

Tbh IL Harmor can do spectral resynthesis but not so sure about synthesis or morphing but it’s been dead on Mac for yonks so I forgot about it, afaik IL also killed off all their plugins except for use within FL Studio so I guess Apple is not the only fruit to do that stuff

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N 4 LIFE wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:08 pm Agree also! Snarkiness is a total waste of time since clearly Sylenth sounds wayyyyyy fatter than Alchemy.
Case closed.
knowledge is power!

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Another thing; I am sorely missing a spread knob in the VA section of the oscillator. I mean we have unison and detune controls in there. Not having a control to spread out those unison voices in the stereo field just seems like a glaring omission.
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LFO8 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:07 pm Another thing; I am sorely missing a spread knob in the VA section of the oscillator. I mean we have unison and detune controls in there. Not having a control to spread out those unison voices in the stereo field just seems like a glaring omission.
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am not arguing your point, but every synth plugin has something missing. would it be nice to have? sure. can i work without it? also... sure.

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