why do all VST's nowadays feel corny??

[BONES]

Reggie Watts is extremely clever, clearly hugely talented, but his stage show is ultimately boring because we have to watch him make the song from scratch. It's amazing the first time you see it but after that... meh.

[Michael L]

his stage show is ultimately boring

I think it's quite difficult to make a show musically and visually interesting if it's based on one predictable technology like looping, because good music includes unpredictability. Reggie Watts goes there with comedy and different languages/vocal sounds.

This guy who you also called "boring" does a pretty good job as a solo performer with loops and Push buttons, with a different goal of getting people to dance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTRzr58 ... CbaaQbz0oO
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To expand your vocabulary, consider new words that are not "boring."

My two favourites are:

platitudinous, "a remark used too often to be interesting" and

bromidic, "dull and tiresome, but with pretensions of significance or originality"

[BONES]

That video is even worse. Even more boring. Perhaps it's just the audio recording but it has very little energy. I can't see it getting people out of their seats and onto a dancefloor.

[Michael L]

Even more boring.

It's pretty good for one singer/songwriter on stage with a Push!

Some studio performances are much fancier, but they are mostly product demos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DqqeQSYTJQ
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They do show how much a VST needs a good midi controller (and a voice)

[zerocrossing]

When I eat corn, I always say to it, “see you tomorrow!”

[ghettosynth]

his stage show is ultimately boring

I think it's quite difficult to make a show musically and visually interesting if it's based on one predictable technology like looping, because good music includes unpredictability. Reggie Watts goes there with comedy and different languages/vocal sounds.

This guy who you also called "boring" does a pretty good job as a solo performer with loops and Push buttons, with a different goal of getting people to dance:

I do like what Reggie Watts does, and I would pay to see him once or twice, I'm not thrilled by this either though. I'm not really impressed that he gets people to dance by shaming them into it TBH. I think that this trend is a reaction to laptop-performing and, while it does allow you to see what the performer is doing, it's tough to make this interesting over an entire set because of a combination of a lack of appendages, and the self imposed limitations of choosing to play alone and insisting that everything is played with hands/feet/mouth, etc.

[ghettosynth]

When I eat corn, I always say to it, “see you tomorrow!”

The blind man says something similar to the jalapeno. "I may not see you tomorrow, but I'll know you're there."

[Daru925]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx1mZocsf6AC ... siystUFNhW
First the cheesy ad, at 3:30, then the itching pain manifested by the eeeeaeaeeeh singer.

Beautiful, and cheesy. Le fromage!

[bermudagold]

there have been lots of these one man bands due to the advancement in live looping tech and daws...what differentiates them to make some of you see some as good performers and others as boring?...i still dont think the type of interface matters more than the intimacy afforded to the musician

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWT7Mik8WOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJMG1dZIiU

then at a much much higher level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl9GtO_vQxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC8CH0Z3L54

[ghettosynth]

there have been lots of these one man bands due to the advancement in live looping tech and daws...what differentiates them to make some of you see some as good performers and others as boring?...i still dont think the type of interface matters more than the intimacy afforded to the musician

To be very clear, I'm not ignorant of these performers, and others, and the trend. I had two much longer posts, but I'm just going to keep my contribution minimal.

[BONES]

What do you mean "lately"? I was doing it in 1985 and all my songs had full arrangements, even back then. There is absolutely no reason the performers need to make their songs so boring, just so everyone can see how clever they are doing it live. It's exactly what I said before - they are putting themselves ahead of the music. It's all about them, not about their songs.

It's pretty good for one singer/songwriter on stage with a Push!

Is it, though? If he bothered to sequence the set ahead of time, I'd be far more impressed. Look at all these live videos and see how much time the performer spends looking at his/her equipment and how little time they spend actually looking at their audience.

[bermudagold]

It's exactly what I said before - they are putting themselves ahead of the music. It's all about them, not about their songs.

It's pretty good for one singer/songwriter on stage with a Push!

Look at all these live videos and see how much time the performer spends looking at his/her equipment and how little time they spend actually looking at their audience.

I could see how someone could make this argument...it is valid...if it becomes all about the gimmick...like look at me, I'm doing all this by myself;...then it's not really about the music, it's more performance art like going to see a circus performer...but I think neon vines, elise trouw, and FKJ/Masego songs and performances stand on their own without the one man band gimmick...the old adage holds...just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD...does it take away from the composition and performance?...I think it depends on the way each artist goes about it and what a particular audience is lookin for...you definitely have more time to connect with the audience if you aren't doing everything...but on the flipside, there are probably some audiences that would rather come to see spectacle than hear songs...like the beatbox battle competition that beardyman performance was at

[BONES]

It definitely takes away from the composition. By its nature it can only be loop-based and, as a consequence, repetitive. Beardyman at least made an effort to get his audience going before he lapsed into boringness.

[zerocrossing]

there have been lots of these one man bands due to the advancement in live looping tech and daws...what differentiates them to make some of you see some as good performers and others as boring?...i still dont think the type of interface matters more than the intimacy afforded to the musician

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWT7Mik8WOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJMG1dZIiU

then at a much much higher level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl9GtO_vQxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC8CH0Z3L54

As someone who’s been doing loop based shows since the early 90s, I’ve come to realize that there are two different types of musicians. Those who enjoy the performance aspects of making music, and those who don’t. I started out somewhat neutral on this point, but over the years I’ve found that I have landed firmly in the “don’t” category. I think people who love it become great performers and people who don’t, don't. It’s as simple as that. I don’t think the tools have anything to do with it.

[martinjuenke]

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