PreSonus Studio One 7 apparently imminent

[THE INTRANCER]

Is it worth jumping over to CLAP plugins where available instead of VST3 or is it still too much in its infancy for any real benefits and potential negatives ?

I thought CLAP was just more a benefit for those on Linux.

[Digivolt]

It's supposed to have better multicore performance and open source so doesn't have Steinberg telling everyone what they can and can't do with it, that was supposed to be the unique selling points among some other things

[BONES]

Would seem pretty easy to import audio stems into REAPER to recreate projects.

If you are OK working like that, which we are definitely not. Once you render out the stems, you've ruled a line under the song and you'll never change it again. Our songs are living, breathing things, they change over time, just as we all do.

[twal]

Would seem pretty easy to import audio stems into REAPER to recreate projects.

If you are OK working like that, which we are definitely not. Once you render out the stems, you've ruled a line under the song and you'll never change it again. Our songs are living, breathing things, they change over time, just as we all do.

Gotcha, only daws that can import into Studio is what you're looking for to use? Or is there another way of doing this?

[BONES]

I'm not looking for anything, The S1 Remote app was something I was only peripherally aware of and had never tried. I was just curious if it was something other DAW devs offered or of it was, as it has turned out to be, yet another tick in a box that other DAWs don't have or rely on 3rd parties to provide. Cubase has it's version of Studio One's Show Page but it's an extra application you have to buy, install and run on top of Cubase. So it seems that Presonus put a lot more focus on live performance (as opposed to live DJing) than other DAW developers.

[heliacal]

They need to update S1 Remote to get it on par with Logic. No Sequencer support, No Browser, and the most maddening thing is that if you hide and/or collapse multi outs of an instrument, it is not reflected in the Remote app! You always have to look at hundreds of channels no matter what...

[jamcat]

Pretty good for a first post!

[sQeetz]

Having to remind people that they are being decent for being decent is kind of a nice touch for kvr

[dellboy]

Does Studio One have a second hand resale value anymore?

I have just looked online and the difference in English pounds for an upgrade and a full perpetual licence at Gear for Music is just £15.

In answer to my own question, I have just noticed that Thomann have reduced the full 12 month + version to £125, with the upgrade from version 6 at £122, which effectively eliminates the upgrade path.

It would seem to me to be counter productive to upgrade an existing version. (Unless I am missing something) It would appear to be financially wiser to open a new account with a different email, and purchase the new + version. A person would then own version 6 and 7, and have the old version to gift to someone, or maybe sell.

https://www.thomann.co.uk/presonus_stud ... KGNwLmMtZM

[Crossinger]

In answer to my own question, I have just noticed that Thomann have reduced the full 12 month + version to £125, with the upgrade from version 6 at £122, which effectively eliminates the upgrade path.

It would seem to me to be counter productive to upgrade an existing version. (Unless I am missing something) It would appear to be financially wiser to open a new account with a different email, and purchase the new + version. A person would then own version 6 and 7, and have the old version to gift to someone, or maybe sell.

What I still don't understand: Is the S1 Pro that you can keep after the 12 months subscription upgradeable? Or are you then stuck with this version (at whatever version number, e.g. 7.3.2) forever? I mean: there must be some substantial difference between perpetual and subscription version, otherwise the pricing model wouldn't make sense.

[D-Fusion]

In answer to my own question, I have just noticed that Thomann have reduced the full 12 month + version to £125, with the upgrade from version 6 at £122, which effectively eliminates the upgrade path.

It would seem to me to be counter productive to upgrade an existing version. (Unless I am missing something) It would appear to be financially wiser to open a new account with a different email, and purchase the new + version. A person would then own version 6 and 7, and have the old version to gift to someone, or maybe sell.

What I still don't understand: Is the S1 Pro that you can keep after the 12 months subscription upgradeable? Or are you then stuck with this version (at whatever version number, e.g. 7.3.2) forever? I mean: there must be some substantial difference between perpetual and subscription version, otherwise the pricing model wouldn't make sense.

When it turns into a perpetual license that license will be the same as if you bought a Perpetual License so you can Choose if you want to go another Round with Hybrid+ or buy the Upgrade when you want to upgrade to a newer version.

[Crossinger]

When it turns into a perpetual license that license will be the same as if you bought a Perpetual License so you can Choose if you want to go another Round with Hybrid+ or buy the Upgrade when you want to upgrade to a newer version.

Uh, if this is the case, then it really doesn't make sense to upgrade my existing perpetual license.

[dellboy]

What I still don't understand: Is the S1 Pro that you can keep after the 12 months subscription upgradeable? Or are you then stuck with this version (at whatever version number, e.g. 7.3.2) forever? I mean: there must be some substantial difference between perpetual and subscription version, otherwise the pricing model wouldn't make sense.

As far as I can see the main difference between an old fashioned upgrade and the new + version is the need to start a subscription.

Can someone tell us what happens If a person takes that route? Can we immediately cancel to stop a second year being taken?

If they maintain this price structure it means the upgrade method is pretty much obsolete. I have a Bitwig Studio licence which is similar, but it is not a subscription like this has become. Maybe on Black Friday they will have a 50% discount offer for upgrades to restore the parity between the versions.

[gentleclockdivider]

In answer to my own question, I have just noticed that Thomann have reduced the full 12 month + version to £125, with the upgrade from version 6 at £122, which effectively eliminates the upgrade path.

It would seem to me to be counter productive to upgrade an existing version. (Unless I am missing something) It would appear to be financially wiser to open a new account with a different email, and purchase the new + version. A person would then own version 6 and 7, and have the old version to gift to someone, or maybe sell.

What I still don't understand: Is the S1 Pro that you can keep after the 12 months subscription upgradeable? Or are you then stuck with this version (at whatever version number, e.g. 7.3.2) forever? I mean: there must be some substantial difference between perpetual and subscription version, otherwise the pricing model wouldn't make sense.

If you have a perpetual license , you get free updates for a year .
If the year is over and you decide not to update , you can still that version .
Ex: Im still on 4.6 , if tommorow I decide to upgrade to 7 , I will get a year long updates untill 3 nov. 2025 .
After that ( without renewing ) I can still use 7

[dellboy]

Thomann currently have ………

1: Studio One Perpetual full ...£166 ($214)

2: Studio One+ 12 months ….£125 ($161)

Both end up being a perpetual licence.

It would seem to me that 2: is the better deal providing it’s easy to cancel.

Whether or not 2: can be upgraded in the future seems moot, as the price difference between a full version and an upgrade is currently negligible.