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Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:17 am
by Erik_Lucas
The title kind of says all. When I shift-click and drag the gain knob in apshaper, or in apQualizer, it locks to 3,6,12, etc., but it would be really helpful if we could have a higher resolution for these predefined values.

Thoughts?

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:37 am
by Pflugshaupt
The values are hardcoded in the plugins and are meant to be an improved version of a default value per slider/knob. They are defined per conversion range, so there is a set of values for dB gain and a different one for 0-100 %.
They can't be super close together as then, targeting a specific value would be hard using shift-dragging. In other words, they need to be some pixels apart. You can also double-click draggable controls and enter precise values using the keyboard.

What kind of extra values are you looking for? Is it quantization you are looking for? What is your use-case?

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:57 pm
by Erik_Lucas
I think mostly it would be useful for targeting different frequencies in apQualizer. For example, it goes from 100 to 500 hz; I target 200hz and 300hz all the time.

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:23 pm
by Pflugshaupt
Ok I see there are very few values defined for frequency, I'm happy to add more, and these will appear on the next round of updates. If you have extra favourite values, you'd like to see added to certain scales, let me know!

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:32 pm
by Erik_Lucas
Definitely would love 30Hz, 2kHz, and 20kHz at a minimum. Having more options is always helpful, though. For example, it might be nice to have 700Hz, 3kHz, and 7kHz as well.

I am just speaking from my workflow; feel free to disregard.

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:25 am
by Pflugshaupt
no I like to regard :).
Original values:
50,100,500,1k,5k,10k

Yesterday I added these:
20, 30, 40, 200, 300, 400, 2000, 3000, 4000

maybe 70/700/7k is more useful than 40/400/4k ...? or both?

As it's a logarithmic scale, there is a fight between even spacing and round numbers.

But what I really meant was.. what other scales/units would you personally like to see what extra values?

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:48 am
by noiseresearch
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Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:43 pm
by Pflugshaupt
Ok the first is just classical graphical eq bands, but where does the second come from?

And those won't give you 200, 300 and 700!

But we're still misunderstanding each other. I didn't mean more frequency values, but more types of scales, for instants db/gain, bandwidth/oct... where else do you feel what extra value would be helpful?

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 4:28 pm
by Erik_Lucas
Pflugshaupt wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:43 pm I didn't mean more frequency values, but more types of scales, for instants db/gain, bandwidth/oct... where else do you feel what extra value would be helpful?
In apShaper, I've noticed I've run into the issue of the output gain not being aligned with the gain steps of the input gain and drive (saturation mode). For example, I could boost the input AND drive by 12, but there is no output gain value of -24. So then I would have to type in manually, which is ok, but it technically slows me down.

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 4:40 pm
by Erik_Lucas
Pflugshaupt wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:25 am no I like to regard :).
Original values:
50,100,500,1k,5k,10k

Yesterday I added these:
20, 30, 40, 200, 300, 400, 2000, 3000, 4000
I like what you've added here. Thanks for considering this! <3

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:01 am
by Pflugshaupt
Thanks for making me aware of the apShaper gain thing. I'll have that fixed, but I'm not sure I can provide all possible combinations :).

For the freq.. would you be happy with the full 31-band standard graphical eq values?

So 20Hz, 25Hz, 31.5Hz, 40Hz, 50Hz, 63Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz, 125Hz 160Hz, 200Hz, 250Hz, 315Hz, 400Hz, 500Hz, 630Hz, 800Hz, 1kHz, 1.25kHz, 1.6kHz, 2kHz, 2.5kHz, 3.15kHz, 4kHz, 5kHz, 6.3kHz, 8kHz, 10kHz, 12.5kHz, 16kHz, 20kHz

To me that would make a lot of sense.

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:17 pm
by Erik_Lucas
Pflugshaupt wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:01 am Thanks for making me aware of the apShaper gain thing. I'll have that fixed, but I'm not sure I can provide all possible combinations :).

For the freq.. would you be happy with the full 31-band standard graphical eq values?

So 20Hz, 25Hz, 31.5Hz, 40Hz, 50Hz, 63Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz, 125Hz 160Hz, 200Hz, 250Hz, 315Hz, 400Hz, 500Hz, 630Hz, 800Hz, 1kHz, 1.25kHz, 1.6kHz, 2kHz, 2.5kHz, 3.15kHz, 4kHz, 5kHz, 6.3kHz, 8kHz, 10kHz, 12.5kHz, 16kHz, 20kHz

To me that would make a lot of sense.
That would be lovely! Certainly more than I asked for, which is really great!

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:44 am
by Pflugshaupt
cool I've done it and I also added more gain values. apShaper get an update in October (if everything goes well), apQualizr2 will take longer.

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:11 pm
by martinjuenke
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Why not?

Re: Wondering if we can have more predefined values for shift-dragging?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 6:40 pm
by andrewklimek
This is cool, I feel like I emailed you this feature request but can't remember.
I've often wished the gain (filter and master) in apqualizr could snap to 0.5 increments