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wave alchemy wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:55 am
kraster wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:29 am
If you had all the pitch modulating effects off would it still sound phasey/flangey if you had a mix control?

I love the saturation and compression aspect of tapewave and it would be useful to be able to dial that in. Obviously a send or duplicate parallel track with the effect on could achieve this but it’s always nice to have it in situ.
Possibly in some of the Tape modes when using their Age controls at heavy settings, since Lofi mode especially is adding some subtle movement and fluctuations, along with other effects. I have not tested that thoroughly though.

Yeah just tried in parallel and was getting very weird results with the age, wow, flutter and drift turned down. Comb filtering, bass dropping, phasing etc. out depending on the tape model.

To be honest the more I dig in the less use I see for it since you can pretty much dial in the amount you want with the drive, input an output controls and most of the time I just love the sound in itself.

It really is outstanding. Particularly on the bottom end. Reminds me a little of Devil Loc by soundtoys in ways. (Most likely due to level-loc modelling!!) It certainly has the mojo.

One thing that might be a worthwhile addition is some kind of simple EQ control like a tilt shift or LP/HP controls. The High end and low end can get a bit unruly at times. I know you can always EQ after the fact but it's nice to have the controls in one interface.

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Loving this one, didn't expect it for "just another tape-sim" but I really like it for getting some cheap aka KinoKult 70s Italian Horrortunes...The Beyond / City of the dead style etc
The options for wow/flutter and its independant speed etc is welcomed here. Also liking the GUI, well done.

I use Softube tape with alot of wobbling to detune my JP8s for instance for great nostalgic effects etc, this will replace it I think.

BTW after installing my Glow AU disappeared from my components. Logic came up with a error and also pluginfo didnt list it anymore, so I guess install of the wavetape deleted the GLow.component somehow. A quick reinstall of Glow fixed it, but really strange.

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I was wrong in feeling this was close to any other "lo-fi" plugins.

The wow and flutter algos are actually quite better than the ones I'd usually use (to my ears at least). Plus Softube's Tape which I use just like the person above me for a similar purpose adds some weird artefacts when changing the stability parameter. Tapewave doesn't do that, so it's much better.
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wayford wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:00 am I was wrong in feeling this was close to any other "lo-fi" plugins.

The wow and flutter algos are actually quite better than the ones I'd usually use (to my ears at least). Plus Softube's Tape which I use just like the person above me for a similar purpose adds some weird artefacts when changing the stability parameter. Tapewave doesn't do that, so it's much better.
Thanks, I am glad people are getting the reason that we made this :D

I'm also using Tapewave personally for special effects in place of the hardware Shure Level Loc. I Use the compressor in 'pre' and 'loc' mode, set tape to either Studio or Dirty, and then drive the compression knob pretty hard and add some saturation after to taste. This works wonders on room mics for drums, or even the full drum mix when wanting something super vibey.

You can also get really old sounding, OTT worn tape sounds by turning the input down a lot, introducing Hiss, and then playing with some of the modes with subtle tape saturation :tu:

And yes, not sure if you heard my Wow / Flutter audio example in this thread, but the other plugin (which I won't name) is probably the most popular plugin out there for this type of thing, and has quite nasty artefacts - I hear this in some others too.

P.S. You may even want to try using this as a Limiter. I am often running drums and bass into Tapewave, with subtle saturation and compression and then turning on the limiter on the output, and driving the output a bit to get a couple db of limiting, and it's great for that sound. It has a cleaner but also more vibey sound than something like soft clipping for example when doing this.
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wave alchemy wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:37 am Simply turn down the input slider if you want less of a 'tape' effect. We'll also likely add a function (in an update) where clicking the tape image disables the tape algorithm completely.

I would suggest trying this out against the others (free demo available) and hearing the difference. You should notice a noticeable difference in the modeling of the saturation and tape styles, since this is using detailed physical modeling rather than soft clipping and EQ curves :tu:
The quality of the engineering is never in doubt with you guys! It sounded great to me. Choosing to purchase it or not was more of a choice of quality vs the extra controls on the competition. Although, I do get this was intended as a 'simple' plugin.

I would still prefer a mix knob for the tape effect, as it gives more control than simply choosing to disable it. It works well on other tape plugins I use that have it (that is, it can dial in the effect without causing phase / chorus / flanging). But, reading the reply to the other user about there being under-the-hood stuff going on with certain ones of the tape types, I can understand why it may not be possible for Tapewave.

I also agree with the later post suggesting another workaround to help with the sculpting of the sound, rather than (or alongside) a disable button for the tape, would be some basic EQ or filter option.
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wave alchemy wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:55 am I'm also using Tapewave personally for special effects in place of the hardware Shure Level Loc. I Use the compressor in 'pre' and 'loc' mode, set tape to either Studio or Dirty, and then drive the compression knob pretty hard and add some saturation after to taste. This works wonders on room mics for drums, or even the full drum mix when wanting something super vibey.
You know, now that you mention this: Tapewave actually kind of reminds me of the (highly revered) Reason-device Pulveriser, which I think tends to serve quite a similar purpose (and the comp of which is also based on the Level Loc).

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Oh, by the way: I'm actually a bit surprised that nobody has mentioned it yet, but personally I find the hiss practically unuseable tbh because it's way too loud without a way to turn it down.

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Agreed. The hiss parameter would be served much better if it had a level control.
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bmanic wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:42 am Agreed. The hiss parameter would be served much better if it had a level control.
Indeed, I do agree :tu:

In case you weren't aware, you can right-click the Hiss button and get some extra options, such as selecting between several levels, locking the off / on state for when browsing presets and applying a noise gate.
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Ok, so based on feedback, we've created a less 'degraded' mix of the main three tracks from the promo video, which are now throughout the product page like below:

https://bit.ly/3YE0SPs

The track named 'Pushed' is the previous, more heavily processed version, and the middle one is a cleaner version with less saturation, some cleaner tape modes in places and far less wow / flutter effects :tu:
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Here is a recording I made with the TAPEWAVE on the Arp Oddy part in this track, as an example of how I would use the tape fx on a synth.
https://soundcloud.com/septicstudio/sep ... -tape-wave
Later on in the track I play with the wow and flutter controls to make the sound deconstruct and degrade

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Excellent plugin, good price (particularly with the intro discount).
Useful for my dub reggae mixes.

I'll be meeting up with Tapewave at the left lion tonight.

Nice review by big Dave as well:
https://youtu.be/NmNB5ukj4Nk

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dark water wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:03 am Excellent plugin, good price (particularly with the intro discount).
Useful for my dub reggae mixes.

Nice review by big Dave as well:
https://youtu.be/NmNB5ukj4Nk
Thank you!
dark water wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:03 am
I'll be meeting up with Tapewave at the left lion tonight.
Oh, it'll go great! True story: That's where my now wife and I met before our first date :o
http://www.wavealchemy.co.uk

Specializing in the development of forward-thinking virtual instruments and sample libraries.

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Septic Underground wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:49 am Here is a recording I made with the TAPEWAVE on the Arp Oddy part in this track, as an example of how I would use the tape fx on a synth.
https://soundcloud.com/septicstudio/sep ... -tape-wave
Later on in the track I play with the wow and flutter controls to make the sound deconstruct and degrade
Nice! :tu:
http://www.wavealchemy.co.uk

Specializing in the development of forward-thinking virtual instruments and sample libraries.

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wave alchemy wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:58 am
dark water wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:03 am
I'll be meeting up with Tapewave at the left lion tonight.
Oh, it'll go great! True story: That's where my now wife and I met before our first date :o
Excellent (and congrats) !
It's the only 'proper' place to meet :D

Well done again on this excellent effort with Tapewave (b^_^)b

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