Typical pop harmonic progressions with strange lyrics. Double tracked acoustic guitar -- recorded with a mic! Orchestral percussion. Orange vocoder layered with some of the vocals -- I keep forgetting how to sing. Electric guitar into TH-U and the UA Fender amp emulation. I misspelled the song name in the mp3 file.
https://archive.org/download/IDofCurve/ ... 20v2-6.mp3
edit: fixed misspelled file name
In Defense of the Curve [Pop]
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- KVRAF
- 3150 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Last edited by Genetic_Junk on Sun May 25, 2025 4:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 3339 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Hmm, why didn't you correct the typo? Is "misspelling" part of the concept?
About the song: Beautiful composition, well sung with a lot of expression.
Lots of dynamism, power and emotion - really good. Of course, there's still a lot
of room for improvement in the mix—but the most important thing is the
composition itself. And it's fantastic!
About the song: Beautiful composition, well sung with a lot of expression.
Lots of dynamism, power and emotion - really good. Of course, there's still a lot
of room for improvement in the mix—but the most important thing is the
composition itself. And it's fantastic!
free mp3s + info: andy-enroe.de songs + weird stuff: enroe.de
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3150 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Thanks for your feedback enroe. I'm glad you noticed the dynamics. One of the tough parts of singing for me is hitting the correct pitch at higher volumes. So it takes a few tries before I get something "good enough".enroe wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 6:53 am Hmm, why didn't you correct the typo? Is "misspelling" part of the concept?
About the song: Beautiful composition, well sung with a lot of expression.
Lots of dynamism, power and emotion - really good. Of course, there's still a lot
of room for improvement in the mix—but the most important thing is the
composition itself. And it's fantastic!
The misspelling isn't part of the concept. After I uploaded, I realized the mistake. But I was having problems accessing archive.org to fix it. So, I just left it. But I've fixed it now.
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- KVRAF
- 11304 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
As enroe mentioned, great composition and agreed that’s the biggest thing. I really like the lyics and I don’t usually listen to lyrics. Mix wise, I think the vocals are competing too much for space. Are you using ADR or micro pitching? Is that Alterboy with MicroShift?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3150 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Thanks for your comments. Is there a particular freq. range where you hear the vocals being masked?elxsound wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 4:50 pm As enroe mentioned, great composition and agreed that’s the biggest thing. I really like the lyics and I don’t usually listen to lyrics. Mix wise, I think the vocals are competing too much for space. Are you using ADR or micro pitching? Is that Alterboy with MicroShift?
I don't think I used ADR. I kind of use Melodyne for micro pitching. I'll layer the pitch shifted version with the "raw" recording. As long as the raw recording isn't more than 30 cents away from the pitch corrected version, it provides a nice phasing effect. I use a few other techniques for the vocals. Sometimes I'll just layer two different vocal takes (normal double tracking). I might also sing an octave or 5th up and add that in too. Sometimes I'll use two takes and apply a short reverb to one of the takes at 100% wet and layer that with the other take.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Haha, that bit right at the end! 
Love the Dinosaur Jr stylee production on this - nicely raw, but retaining control.
As others have said, the vocals are a bit indistinct in parts, so probably a bit more automation in the loud parts to up them a bit? Probably overall could do with them bumping up a bit too.
There's a lot of differently effected vocal parts going on (I know the feeling...) so there may be a case to have one 'main' vocal as a constant and have the others more as 'spot effects' so there's less up and down and variation going on, but possibly that would lessen the charm of it a bit....hmm.
Anyway, enjoyed it as is. After all, tis the indie rokk, imperfection is part of the deal!
Love the Dinosaur Jr stylee production on this - nicely raw, but retaining control.
As others have said, the vocals are a bit indistinct in parts, so probably a bit more automation in the loud parts to up them a bit? Probably overall could do with them bumping up a bit too.
There's a lot of differently effected vocal parts going on (I know the feeling...) so there may be a case to have one 'main' vocal as a constant and have the others more as 'spot effects' so there's less up and down and variation going on, but possibly that would lessen the charm of it a bit....hmm.
Anyway, enjoyed it as is. After all, tis the indie rokk, imperfection is part of the deal!
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- KVRAF
- 12134 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
Lots of contrasts on this one. Changes in volume, intensity, mood, instrumentation create a pleasant and varied listening experience. I enjoyed the melodies on here, and the vocoder was a blast.
Re: The ending vocals - are you old enough to remember Pinky and Perky (not the animated version, but the subversive original series featuring puppets from the 1960s)?
Good work
Re: The ending vocals - are you old enough to remember Pinky and Perky (not the animated version, but the subversive original series featuring puppets from the 1960s)?
Good work
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aaron aardvark aaron aardvark https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=248508
- KVRAF
- 3056 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles
Genetic_Junk,
Thank you for the review! Now your song: Intro sounds pretty trippy and mellow. Then gets more intense. Plenty of surprises. Parts of it remind me of the Beatles. Reminded me briefly of the Smashing Pumpkins, at least once. Part 60's psychedelic. Never a dull moment. Pretty interesting for sure. Good melodies.
Cool recording.
Thank you for the review! Now your song: Intro sounds pretty trippy and mellow. Then gets more intense. Plenty of surprises. Parts of it remind me of the Beatles. Reminded me briefly of the Smashing Pumpkins, at least once. Part 60's psychedelic. Never a dull moment. Pretty interesting for sure. Good melodies.
Cool recording.
You can hear my original music at this link: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/defau ... dID=224436
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3150 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Thanks! I guess I like vocals with a bit a friction in the mix. Your point on creating a more cohesive vocal sound is very true. I had the same thought but was not sure how to get there, other than starting over with the vocal processing.
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- KVRAF
- 6466 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
Excellent song! I'm not sure what it's about. Maybe the geometry teacher drank too much at lunch and starting giving a bizarre lecture frightening the kids?
The production is extremely raw and dynamic. I like it this way, warts and all. It is the opposite of most modern stuff which sounds like a collection of loops. This is full of life. Great job.
The production is extremely raw and dynamic. I like it this way, warts and all. It is the opposite of most modern stuff which sounds like a collection of loops. This is full of life. Great job.
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- KVRAF
- 1838 posts since 28 Oct, 2005 from Finland
Nice one. Versatile progression and arrangement. Sounds good.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3150 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Thanks! Those are some great references. I really enjoy the first three albums of the Smashing Pumpkins.aaron aardvark wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 8:09 am Genetic_Junk,
Thank you for the review! Now your song: Intro sounds pretty trippy and mellow. Then gets more intense. Plenty of surprises. Parts of it remind me of the Beatles. Reminded me briefly of the Smashing Pumpkins, at least once. Part 60's psychedelic. Never a dull moment. Pretty interesting for sure. Good melodies.
Cool recording.
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- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
nice and quirky.... many layers to peel off... good job.