GForce impOSCar 3 is here

[Greenstorm33]

Does GForce continue to offer upgrade pricing after their initial release sales, and if so what is the typical regular upgrade price? I can't remember from their previous releases.

[ramseysounds]

Sorted

[zerocrossing]

EDIT: I'm pretty sure my experience is based on an intermittent bug, so see my edits.

So, here's my mini review of the 3 upgrade.

4 out of 5 stars.

I just compared the naked saw on 2 vs 3, and they are quite different. 3 has a much attenuated high end. Looks like this is true for all the waveforms, including wavetables, though when I look at them in an oscilloscope, they don't look that far off, though there's some signs of aliasing on the v2 wave that's not in v3. If you travel up the keyboard the sawtooth on 3 starts looking like a triangle wave, as if there's a fixed low pass filter. This seems to be a bug, but it's really making the plugin sound very dark to me.

Going back today, same init patches, and I'm getting a different result with the plain sawtooth... so that's weird. This next part still checks out.

If you want to quickly check this out, load up 01HollowBass on both versions and prepare to weep. If this is closer to the OG OSCar, I think it's worse. (this is still happening.

Next... I miss the old additive waves. BellLike02 sounds nothing like the same waveform in v3. If I go in and edit it by hand I can get closer, but WTF? Also, v3 is all smooth, while v2 had that nice old school digital grit. Where's the grit? WHERE ARE YOU HIDING IT? Evidently, behind a low pass filter.

Same with the waves, same init patch, but now when I change to one of the additive waves, it's fine.

UI, much improved... and still crappy. I don't care how the OSCar was, please set up the controls in a way that visually makes sense.

The new reverb sounds OK. Sort of grainy, which I guess goes with the theme.

Opinion unchanged. Not a big deal, as there are plenty of great sounding smooth reverbs if I don't want this type of character.

Evidently you can't modulate the wavetable with an envelope. I don't even know where to start with that stupidity. Fail.

OK, you can do this, though it's not obvious, and you lose an LFO. I think they should just have it work like PW works. It's the same knob that's labeled PW/WT.

Wavetable editor is fine, but no wavetable import is a bummer. I'd rather have that than this very basic editor.

Opinion unchanged. I'd still like to see basic wavetable import.

Overall a pretty good update. I was all excited by the hyperbole and I didn't even bother to demo it. Stupid me. I hope they fix all the issues, or I'll probably keep using v2.

Overall a pretty good update, but there is definitely some sort of bug happening. Next time I experience it, I'll make a recording. I tried hopping around different patches and going back to the init (which I realized by default does not have the filter open, but I altered it) and it sounds OK now.

[felis]

It certainly looks as if the UI (and patch browser look too) was made by old people....

Looks fine to me, but I'm 'old people' too.

[sacer]

Does GForce continue to offer upgrade pricing after their initial release sales, and if so what is the typical regular upgrade price? I can't remember from their previous releases.

yes i can just update string maschines for 39 pounds

[zerocrossing]

It certainly looks as if the UI (and patch browser look too) was made by old people....

Looks fine to me, but I'm 'old people' too.

They need to make it that when you save over a patch it goes back to the patch list. As it is now, this old person doesn't like to close the browser and reopen it just to be able to get to the next patch on the list.

[Greenstorm33]

Does GForce continue to offer upgrade pricing after their initial release sales, and if so what is the typical regular upgrade price? I can't remember from their previous releases.

yes i can just update string maschines for 39 pounds

Perfect, thanks!

[BONES]

I didn't even bother to demo it. Stupid me. I hope they fix all the issues, or I'll probably keep using v2.

Ummm, how did you do the waveform comparisons if you didn't bother to demo the instrument? Good to know it's not worth bothering with, though, as I am perfectly happy with the impOSCar I have and I certainly see no benefit in yet another wavetable synth. It's strange that they would alter the sound, unless it now sounds even more like the original than it did (which doesn't bother me, one way or the other).

[Gam456]

It sound gorgeous, i don't mind if it's not close to the original

[seafire]

I didn't even bother to demo it. Stupid me. I hope they fix all the issues, or I'll probably keep using v2.

Ummm, how did you do the waveform comparisons if you didn't bother to demo the instrument?

Bought it without demoing it, presumably

[seafire]

So, here's my mini review of the 3 upgrade.

2 out of 5 stars.

I just compared the naked saw on 2 vs 3, and they are quite different. 3 has a much attenuated high end. Looks like this is true for all the waveforms, including wavetables, though when I look at them in an oscilloscope, they don't look that far off, though there's some signs of aliasing on the v2 wave that's not in v3. If you travel up the keyboard the sawtooth on 3 starts looking like a triangle wave, as if there's a fixed low pass filter. This seems to be a bug, but it's really making the plugin sound very dark to me. If you want to quickly check this out, load up 01HollowBass on both versions and prepare to weep. If this is closer to the OG OSCar, I think it's worse.

Next... I miss the old additive waves. BellLike02 sounds nothing like the same waveform in v3. If I go in and edit it by hand I can get closer, but WTF? Also, v3 is all smooth, while v2 had that nice old school digital grit. Where's the grit? WHERE ARE YOU HIDING IT? Evidently, behind a low pass filter.

UI, much improved... and still crappy. I don't care how the OSCar was, please set up the controls in a way that visually makes sense.

The new reverb sounds OK. Sort of grainy, which I guess goes with the theme.

Evidently you can't modulate the wavetable with an envelope. I don't even know where to start with that stupidity. Fail.

Wavetable editor is fine, but no wavetable import is a bummer. I'd rather have that than this very basic editor.

Overall a poor update. I was all excited by the hyperbole and I didn't even bother to demo it. Stupid me. I hope they fix all the issues, or I'll probably keep using v2.

Also

impOSCar 3 is awesome

[zerocrossing]

I didn't even bother to demo it. Stupid me. I hope they fix all the issues, or I'll probably keep using v2.

Ummm, how did you do the waveform comparisons if you didn't bother to demo the instrument?

Bought it without demoing it, presumably

I’ve been so happy with all their software and upgrades, and the comments here were completely positive, so I got sucked in. I should no better than to assume people know what they’re talking about.

[zerocrossing]

So, here's my mini review of the 3 upgrade.

2 out of 5 stars.

I just compared the naked saw on 2 vs 3, and they are quite different. 3 has a much attenuated high end. Looks like this is true for all the waveforms, including wavetables, though when I look at them in an oscilloscope, they don't look that far off, though there's some signs of aliasing on the v2 wave that's not in v3. If you travel up the keyboard the sawtooth on 3 starts looking like a triangle wave, as if there's a fixed low pass filter. This seems to be a bug, but it's really making the plugin sound very dark to me. If you want to quickly check this out, load up 01HollowBass on both versions and prepare to weep. If this is closer to the OG OSCar, I think it's worse.

Next... I miss the old additive waves. BellLike02 sounds nothing like the same waveform in v3. If I go in and edit it by hand I can get closer, but WTF? Also, v3 is all smooth, while v2 had that nice old school digital grit. Where's the grit? WHERE ARE YOU HIDING IT? Evidently, behind a low pass filter.

UI, much improved... and still crappy. I don't care how the OSCar was, please set up the controls in a way that visually makes sense.

The new reverb sounds OK. Sort of grainy, which I guess goes with the theme.

Evidently you can't modulate the wavetable with an envelope. I don't even know where to start with that stupidity. Fail.

Wavetable editor is fine, but no wavetable import is a bummer. I'd rather have that than this very basic editor.

Overall a poor update. I was all excited by the hyperbole and I didn't even bother to demo it. Stupid me. I hope they fix all the issues, or I'll probably keep using v2.

Also

impOSCar 3 is awesome

It can definitely sound awesome. I hope they fix the weird low-pass stuff and the inability to modulate the wave index with the envelopes, then it will truly be awesome.

[seafire]

Just messing

[vitocorleone123]

It sound gorgeous, i don't mind if it's not close to the original

I agree. I never used v2 (too tiny) after getting it for free.

Sounds good and more “alive” than many purported analog emulations, including a certain one that just came out. Don’t know what the hardware sounded like. I also use it conceptually as an analog synth with digital oscillators rather than as a wavetable synth and set my expectations accordingly.

$35 well spent.