TonePort™ KB37
- Rad Grandad
- Topic Starter
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
while looking at the site for gear box
http://line6.com/gearbox_plugin/
I saw this coming too
http://line6.com/toneport/kb37.html
http://line6.com/gearbox_plugin/
I saw this coming too
http://line6.com/toneport/kb37.html
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- 12368 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
stupid idiots.
one of these days, the entire world is going to kick itself in the nuts for not realising that pitch wheels are more or less useless in comparison to clavia's spring mounted pitch stick. you don't have to copy it ewxactly, but innovate! refine!
just you wait! one day you'll find out, then you'll say how i was right and you were all wrong all along and then you'll be sorry! i mean.. this is marketed at guitar players, right?!
(no, it really does kill me every time someone tries to market a new, comparatively useless controller. basically it kills me because the only way to get one is to pay clavia prices :p)
one of these days, the entire world is going to kick itself in the nuts for not realising that pitch wheels are more or less useless in comparison to clavia's spring mounted pitch stick. you don't have to copy it ewxactly, but innovate! refine!
just you wait! one day you'll find out, then you'll say how i was right and you were all wrong all along and then you'll be sorry! i mean.. this is marketed at guitar players, right?!
(no, it really does kill me every time someone tries to market a new, comparatively useless controller. basically it kills me because the only way to get one is to pay clavia prices :p)
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRAF
- 10588 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
I like pitch wheels
In fact I want a midi controller that is something like 8 modwheels and 8 special modwheels that return to the center like pitch wheels.
In fact I want a midi controller that is something like 8 modwheels and 8 special modwheels that return to the center like pitch wheels.
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- KVRAF
- 2107 posts since 12 May, 2003 from gone
he's right though
the wooden pitch stick on the clavia is just so so great
it's the only thing i really envy about clavia instruments (they are damn fun instruments to play all-around though)
but seriously, if you've never taken one for a spin, don't miss it
edit: with the rounded-out indent for your finger to sit and roll in, yummy hehe
the wooden pitch stick on the clavia is just so so great
it's the only thing i really envy about clavia instruments (they are damn fun instruments to play all-around though)
but seriously, if you've never taken one for a spin, don't miss it
edit: with the rounded-out indent for your finger to sit and roll in, yummy hehe
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- KVRAF
- 10588 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
ill play with one next time Im in guitar center
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- 12368 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
ahahaha, i forgive you this because you do not know.. pearls before swine it is.. ahahaha..The Chase wrote:I like pitch wheels
"they're actually good for more than sounding like prince"
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
I had a nord lead 2 back in 99 or so, and I personally HATED the pitch stick... But, I havent had the nord in years now, so mebbe it was my problem and not clavias...
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 25 Sep, 2004
I believe this is ugly..very ugly. As one guy on a blog said: It's like the designer had no idea about how a control keyboard looks. It's a kitch fusion.. As for Clavia's pitch stick..can anyone explain to me, for what reason is better than a pitch wheel? I've tried it and i found it uncomfortable and a little difficult to bend..Hink wrote:while looking at the site for gear box
http://line6.com/gearbox_plugin/
I saw this coming too
http://line6.com/toneport/kb37.html
It's more fun to compute..
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 3002 posts since 24 Nov, 2003 from Heidelberg&Hamburg
Maybe this is not even what xoxos means , I just searched for pics to understand whatthis thread is about. And thanks for the PCR-info, such things make KVR a good place for me. (One of these days I'll pm you because of some pickup-question I have with my guitar)Lunch Money wrote:What the hell...? No, that's not quite the same as the PCR, but it might work in a similar way. I dunno. The PCR is a combo stick/wheel.
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- 12368 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
pitch stick has no 'center detent'
if you've ever been unfortunate enough to drive a vehicle with a loose steering wheel with ~ a 6" dead spot in the middle.. any time you want to steer very slightly left or right you have to manically twist the wheel back and forth.
same thing - the 'dead' spot makes very subtle vibrato difficult and unnatural since you have to skate over a nonreactive arc. with the pitch stick, a slight movement is directly transferred to pitch events.
oc s.a.p. if you're using pitch for dramatic 'prince keyboard' effects where you jam it up 1 octave, maybe you want the stick, but for any kind of acoustic vibrato performance it's got it so licked it's just pitiful.
pitiful.
if you've ever been unfortunate enough to drive a vehicle with a loose steering wheel with ~ a 6" dead spot in the middle.. any time you want to steer very slightly left or right you have to manically twist the wheel back and forth.
same thing - the 'dead' spot makes very subtle vibrato difficult and unnatural since you have to skate over a nonreactive arc. with the pitch stick, a slight movement is directly transferred to pitch events.
oc s.a.p. if you're using pitch for dramatic 'prince keyboard' effects where you jam it up 1 octave, maybe you want the stick, but for any kind of acoustic vibrato performance it's got it so licked it's just pitiful.
pitiful.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada