KVR Audio

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:00 pm

Why do they have a picture of four middle aged men dressed in clown clothes on their product page?

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:04 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Here's a preliminary Kore template for controlling NI's new ensemble for Reaktor, Razor, in Kore 2. It was a bit complicated to create so is not perfect yet - Razor works fine in Kore but not all params are automatable and the layout is not well optimised for Kore so I have had to make some compromises. Because there are so many osc and filter types available I have made some user pages to multiple duty for all OSCS and also for filters that have the same layout/auto ID's but it doesn't work for all so some filters have their own user pages. It sould be fairly straightforward though.

Also I have made a version for the nkplr (Player) version and one for an ens version as personally I like to work with the ens version as I like to then be able to mod it but some may only have the Player. I have provided a path for where I placed my ens version but you should be able to change it. This template can be used to import all the Snaps as KoreSounds as well as to control this very playable synth.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5646041/Kore%20 ... mplate.zip

I will post on my site later too

Nice! Thank you!

I don't have Kore but thanks for all the work you put into all these Kore templates!

Cheers
Dennis

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:52 pm

Double post.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:53 pm

BASSDRIVE wrote:Say NO to dubstep

And strangers wearing hats indoors.

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:23 am

Too bad, that there is no demo available. The Razor looks really cool, and there are not many good additive softsynths out there.

But now buying it? And in some weeks it's for free in Komplete 8?

soma · Post by **soma** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:10 pm

musikmachine wrote:
Architeuthis wrote:
BERFAB wrote:Sorry if I missed this, but is there a working demo available?
same question here.
I don't think there is with any of the powered by reaktor instruments.

Torley on you tube plays every preset so you can get a feel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_EIiuyuQc
There are 7 parts... I just posted one.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:39 pm

soma wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
Architeuthis wrote:
BERFAB wrote:Sorry if I missed this, but is there a working demo available?
same question here.
I don't think there is with any of the powered by reaktor instruments.
Torley on you tube plays every preset so you can get a feel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_EIiuyuQc
There are 7 parts... I just posted one.

Thanks! Wow that is a nice sounding synth!

*Puts dubstep hat on*

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:53 pm

LBN wrote:Why do they have a picture of four middle aged men dressed in clown clothes on their product page?

As I said before, NI wants to be trendy all the time. I don't know what's trendy at the moment but it seems to be middle aged man in clown clothes

Cheers
Dennis

Gosh · Post by **Gosh** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:56 pm

this is the best 69 euro i spent during the last months. it sounds great (in a digital way as you might suppose). fortunately, there is a lot more than dubstep type sounds, especially some ethereal pads, fx, bells etc. cpu consumption is between 5 and 40 % on my aging quadcore 6600 (on one core of course). and the icing on the cake is the vocoder. i just messed around with a drumloop and the presets to test it and it sounds brilliant. and altough i know that the sound is what really matters, the 3d animation is also beautiful. so, really 69 euros well spent.
cheers

soma · Post by **soma** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:46 pm

musikmachine wrote:I don't make hard electronic music but i like a synth with character. The filters on this sound great, can you use them with the vocoder?

Listen to every vocoder patch here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Torley#p/u/6/lhBfAr6UPfY

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:52 pm

Yeah the vocoder sounds really nice. That's the stand out for me from those youtube demos.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:12 pm

Has anyone else noticed that razor's cpu goes down when not being played? As far as I know this is the first ensemble from NI where this happens.

I agree about the selection functionality for waveforms and filters etc. Why the hell would they design it like that to automatically turn off the selection set so that you have to keep going back to the menu to click it on and then go back to the selection frame. So annoying, terrible workflow for that. And you're almost always going to want to try a few different types of waveforms, filters etc. I don't even understand how the people who made it could have not gone crazy with it as it is.

errorsmith · Post by **errorsmith** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:37 pm

hi everybody,
i read this critique about razor and i thought it's a good idea to comment on it as i developed razor. I hope you don't mind.

Echoes in the Attic wrote:I agree about the selection functionality for waveforms and filters etc. Why the hell would they design it like that to automatically turn off the selection set so that you have to keep going back to the menu to click it on and then go back to the selection frame. So annoying, terrible workflow for that. And you're almost always going to want to try a few different types of waveforms, filters etc. I don't even understand how the people who made it could have not gone crazy with it as it is.

For me it works very well the way it is. I want to see the spectral display after selection so i know what the osc / filter type is doing. Especially when i try different knob settings for it. That's what i do mostly after selection. To have another button in the picker to close it would hamper my workflow.

Its the usual pop-up behavior: The picker disappears after selection. Ok, in razor the pop up is shown at a central position, so you have to go a little longer way with the mouse, for me that is ok.

all the best

erik

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:52 pm

errorsmith wrote:hi everybody,
i read this critique about razor and i thought it's a good idea to comment on it as i developed razor. I hope you don't mind.

Echoes in the Attic wrote:I agree about the selection functionality for waveforms and filters etc. Why the hell would they design it like that to automatically turn off the selection set so that you have to keep going back to the menu to click it on and then go back to the selection frame. So annoying, terrible workflow for that. And you're almost always going to want to try a few different types of waveforms, filters etc. I don't even understand how the people who made it could have not gone crazy with it as it is.
For me it works very well the way it is. I want to see the spectral display after selection so i know what the osc / filter type is doing. Especially when i try different knob settings for it. That's what i do mostly after selection. To have another button in the picker to close it would hamper my workflow.

Its the usual pop-up behavior: The picker disappears after selection. Ok, in razor the pop up is shown at a central position, so you have to go a little longer way with the mouse, for me that is ok.

all the best

erik

Thanks for commenting. Let me say that I still think it's a great synth so I hope you don't take offense at this one criticism. But I really do think it's really unpleasant to switch settings. It's not really the same as a menu as you mentioned because you have to go to a different part of the screen to make the selection. It becomes very tedious, especially when you're getting to know the synth. If you just had a single button near the display to lock the display to the current parameter selection that would make everyone happy. You could leave it unlocked and have it automatically revert to the graphical display. And everyone else could have it stay on the current parameter they are selecting until they click it again.

Just one lock button.

cheers

errorsmith · Post by **errorsmith** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:23 pm

Thanks for the suggestion! We think about it.

Razor by Errorsmith / Native Instruments