cyberheater wrote:(Please don't crap up this thread with Diva comparison talk).
That's really not necessary to state that.
In a way, by stating that, your actually doing the thing you are telling us not to do.
So. How are you getting on with Tone2 Saurus...
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- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
That's really not necessary to state that.
In a way, by stating that, your actually doing the thing you are telling us not to do.
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- KVRAF
- 1793 posts since 9 Apr, 2011
It is necessary because it's happened within the first 15 posts of every other thread about Saurus so far.
"musician."
http://soundcloud.com/nine-of-kings
http://soundcloud.com/nine-of-kings
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Then maybe it should just state "NO COMPARISONS" and not include a name of a specific synth.nineofkings wrote:It is necessary because it's happened within the first 15 posts of every other thread about Saurus so far.
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 4 Jul, 2007
nice sound and I like the level of control over the sequencer/arp
however...probably the worst set of factory presets of any synth - no problem if you want to create from scratch but not good if you need a quick synth to go to for some good sounds to start from...
however...probably the worst set of factory presets of any synth - no problem if you want to create from scratch but not good if you need a quick synth to go to for some good sounds to start from...
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- KVRAF
- 2111 posts since 25 Jun, 2008 from Montreal, Canada
I really like it, it's easy to get quick, usable sounds pretty fast. I agrre that there should be an option to hide the keyboard.
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
I think that the idea of hiding the keyboard would be a good one for them to work on.xx JPRacer xx wrote:I really like it, it's easy to get quick, usable sounds pretty fast. I agrre that there should be an option to hide the keyboard.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
One of the next official expansions will be a Dance/Trance bank...fisherKing wrote:i think it's a great synth. easy to work with, great fat sound. am doing more 'modern' music, so the vintage bank didn't do much for me. but for fat arps, pads..basses...it's pretty great...
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 597 posts since 29 Jan, 2004
I think that's my only gripe with Saurus. I find the expansion soundsets far to expensive. I know they are probably worth it but it's still too much for me.Ingonator wrote:One of the next official expansions will be a Dance/Trance bank...fisherKing wrote:i think it's a great synth. easy to work with, great fat sound. am doing more 'modern' music, so the vintage bank didn't do much for me. but for fat arps, pads..basses...it's pretty great...
Ingo
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- KVRAF
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
i also wish i could hide the keyboard (i'm ALWAYS posting here about plugin keyboards LOL).
meanwhile, i've tried to at least CLEAN the keys; i keep scrubbing them, but nothing helps...
meanwhile, i've tried to at least CLEAN the keys; i keep scrubbing them, but nothing helps...
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Maybe a virtual compressed air can and a virtual tissue box should come nextfisherKing wrote:i also wish i could hide the keyboard (i'm ALWAYS posting here about plugin keyboards LOL).
meanwhile, i've tried to at least CLEAN the keys; i keep scrubbing them, but nothing helps...
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
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- KVRAF
- 10535 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
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I love the thing, cracking sound to it, easy to use, as always quality effects from T2.
I am still a bit puzzled by a couple of functions on the synth, not sure how to get the best out of them, but that's more my inexperience than the synths problem.
I am still a bit puzzled by a couple of functions on the synth, not sure how to get the best out of them, but that's more my inexperience than the synths problem.
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
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- KVRAF
- 1993 posts since 18 Nov, 2008
not that well
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
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- 5627 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Here's a few thoughts of mine, biased or not, still, my own genuine observations after having used Saurus for a long time:
- I've seen people commenting that Saurus is just a subset of ElectraX. Saurus' oscillators and the filter are much different (at least the 24dB LPF I tested). The basic building blocks just sound different (edit: and I hasten to add, they sound much better to my ears), which is what I found out by doing direct comparisons.
- does it sound 'analogue'? Most definitely. When compared to one of my hardware vintage analogue synths the filter resonance, and some waves were very close. The resonant filter sweep in particular, was very authentic. By the way, I dislike doing 'one-to-one' comparisons as I like to take each synth and find its strengths, not worrying about much else. That's why in the past I used to imitate the 'analog' sound using an FM synth,
a silly notion perhaps, but one which brings unexpected and pleasant results.
- the much maligned 'feedback' effect. This has a great sound if used wisely. I like it at about 11 o'clock with the LPF cutoff reduced to below 12 o'clock. Wiggle the cutoff for some nice timbres. This sounds even better with some resonance. Another good use: add 'zap' to sharp LPF decay sounds. It also works nice with drive up, res up low cutoff, for a dark, thick psychedelic type bass/lead.
- the audio rate sound of the LFOs is very, very good! Not much talk about this feature, which gives some very cool, clangorous sounds. For percussion this is Saurus' one of the best features. I reckon Tone2 ought to do a drum machine as they have all the ingredients in place.
- the mod matirx has some cool new options and is extremely well specified.
Criticisms? There are some.
- As some have pointed out, there's too much hidden in the mod matrix. Basics like master tune, noise, should be up on the UI.
- The 'boost' parameter produces a click when used on fast decay sounds (it's very audible on bass sounds). Also, it would be good for the boost parameter to have a 'bass boost' only option. I sometimes use filter 'drive' to reduce high frequencies which the 'boost' parameter adds to the signal. Good on bass sounds.
- It would be nice to have another flavour of filter drive, one which is more aggressive (and not volume compensated) and still 'warm'. Same with feedback: another option with a different sound would be nice.
- the formant filter is weak. This is surprising as Markus has absolutely superb formant filters in Gladiator.
Saurus gives another flavour of the 'analogue' sound, which is just as well, as it would be pointless to have each analog modeling VA sound the same! Real analogue synths don't sound the same, so why should software?
- I've seen people commenting that Saurus is just a subset of ElectraX. Saurus' oscillators and the filter are much different (at least the 24dB LPF I tested). The basic building blocks just sound different (edit: and I hasten to add, they sound much better to my ears), which is what I found out by doing direct comparisons.
- does it sound 'analogue'? Most definitely. When compared to one of my hardware vintage analogue synths the filter resonance, and some waves were very close. The resonant filter sweep in particular, was very authentic. By the way, I dislike doing 'one-to-one' comparisons as I like to take each synth and find its strengths, not worrying about much else. That's why in the past I used to imitate the 'analog' sound using an FM synth,
a silly notion perhaps, but one which brings unexpected and pleasant results.- the much maligned 'feedback' effect. This has a great sound if used wisely. I like it at about 11 o'clock with the LPF cutoff reduced to below 12 o'clock. Wiggle the cutoff for some nice timbres. This sounds even better with some resonance. Another good use: add 'zap' to sharp LPF decay sounds. It also works nice with drive up, res up low cutoff, for a dark, thick psychedelic type bass/lead.
- the audio rate sound of the LFOs is very, very good! Not much talk about this feature, which gives some very cool, clangorous sounds. For percussion this is Saurus' one of the best features. I reckon Tone2 ought to do a drum machine as they have all the ingredients in place.
- the mod matirx has some cool new options and is extremely well specified.
Criticisms? There are some.
- As some have pointed out, there's too much hidden in the mod matrix. Basics like master tune, noise, should be up on the UI.
- The 'boost' parameter produces a click when used on fast decay sounds (it's very audible on bass sounds). Also, it would be good for the boost parameter to have a 'bass boost' only option. I sometimes use filter 'drive' to reduce high frequencies which the 'boost' parameter adds to the signal. Good on bass sounds.
- It would be nice to have another flavour of filter drive, one which is more aggressive (and not volume compensated) and still 'warm'. Same with feedback: another option with a different sound would be nice.
- the formant filter is weak. This is surprising as Markus has absolutely superb formant filters in Gladiator.
Saurus gives another flavour of the 'analogue' sound, which is just as well, as it would be pointless to have each analog modeling VA sound the same! Real analogue synths don't sound the same, so why should software?
