KVR Audio

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:31 pm

Music ReGenerative Tools

i think.

and boris was working with kvr user bobbotov, dont know who else if anyone.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:37 pm

Numanoid wrote:Can the M-RGT stuff now be viewed as abandonware?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware

You can view anything in any way you please, but legally speaking Abandonware doesn't exist - as described in that article.
Unless you live in a country where it does, of course.

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:01 pm

well, legally speaking...lots of things dont exist...including some laws.

also, legally actionable ≠ illegal. which i guess is a subject for another time.

though you are right...which is why i initially said it didnt matter.

"abandoned" or not...someone owns them.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:02 pm

It ends up in the nudge nudge say no more category

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:14 pm

chaosWyrM wrote:also, legally actionable ≠ illegal. which i guess is a subject for another time.

Of course, and someone might live in a country where no copyright laws exist...

...And then the Americans install a puppet government, and ...

Anyway, generally, Abandonware is a moral concept. Because even if no one owns the author right / copyright / usage right, you don't own it either.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:16 pm

T-CM11 wrote:...And then the Americans install a puppet government, and ...

...they use the policy: don't ask don't tell

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:18 pm

Numanoid wrote:It ends up in the nudge nudge say no more category

Abandonporn?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:18 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
Numanoid wrote:It ends up in the nudge nudge say no more category
Abandonporn?

I guess, like stuff one finds on betamaxes

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:20 pm

Numanoid wrote:
T-CM11 wrote:...And then the Americans install a puppet government, and ...
...they use the policy: don't ask to don't tell

Oh, I had SWAT teams in mind.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:22 pm

Numanoid wrote: I guess, like stuff one finds on betamaxes

Playin that found tape is like entering that creepy cabin in the woods.

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:24 pm

Numanoid wrote:It ends up in the nudge nudge say no more category

well. again, legally speaking, if there are no parties willing or able to file a suit against you...then you can do whatever you want...legally speaking.

youll have to decide for yourself where that stands morally.

contrary to popular belief here at kvr, there are things which could get you sued...but are not in fact illegal.

as mentioned...those two things are not the same.

but again...thats a topic for another time.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:26 pm

chaosWyrM wrote: contrary to popular belief here at kvr, there are things which could get you sued...but are not in fact illegal.

Communism?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:28 pm

chaosWyrM wrote:youll have to decide for yourself where that stands morally.

As I already own a full license to the M-RGT software bundle, I got mine cleared for usage

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:29 pm

chaosWyrM wrote:well. again, legally speaking, if there are no parties willing or able to file a suit against you...then you can do whatever you want...legally speaking.

Like... ehm... sex! But maybe we should abandon that subject.

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:37 pm

Numanoid wrote:
chaosWyrM wrote:youll have to decide for yourself where that stands morally.
As I already own a full license to the M-RGT software bundle, I got mine cleared for usage

yeah...i bought them all straight away when they were released, i didnt even demo them. i mean...they are so good, and the price was beyond reasonable...they were so cheap, it kinda felt like i was stealing them.

PsyGen, PsyBox and Ambitron from M-RGT?