Another major dev may have quietly dropped Win XP support

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Yudaidhun wrote:I mean Aero has 3 frames video latency.
It is hesitated by Drawing software user or gamers.
[citation needed]
Yudaidhun wrote:One of my professional friend uses AeroOFF + CRT monitor for recording,
to see the meter response immediately.
correct me if i'm wrong, but LCD's are way faster than CRT's. that's like complaining about automatic gears being slower than manual while riding a Trabant instead of a Ferrari. so it's very unprofessional of your professional friend to use CRT :-)
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.

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Zombie Queen wrote:
Frantz wrote:Sometime after April 2014, it will no longer be safe to have an XP system on the internet (browsing or reading email)
Nah, I don't believe that. I had one of my kids box running XP SP2, which I just recently got up to date, it was running like about 3 years without any security updating, no anti-virus garbage whatsoever. It was and is running fine, I scanned it thoroughly before applying updates and it was clean.
You probably wouldn't know if your kid's box had a rootkit on it. They hide from scanners.

In any case, your argument is like saying my kid played in traffic for a year and wasn't hit by a car so it is safe for everyone to play in traffic. You can't draw conclusions from one anecdote.

I work for a huge company that hates spending money. Yet they are spending a fortune replacing everyone's XP machine with new Win7 machines because of the security risk.

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Burillo wrote: correct me if i'm wrong, but LCD's are way faster than CRT's.
No. They most certainly are not.

Compared with CRTs, LCDs are slow like proverbial molasses in winter.

In fact nothing is faster than a CRT.

(There. Corrected.) :)

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Frantz wrote:........You probably wouldn't know if your kid's box had a rootkit on it. They hide from scanners..........
Frantz,
I'm curious. Will a software like malwarebytes solve this issue? How would one know if a rootkit was present? (Aside from obvious maliciousness of course).

Can you recommend solutions for these sort of issues?

I have to agree that most of the so called virus protection is not as good as the hype those companies present.

Thanks!

Happy Musiking!
dsan

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I use Malwarebytes, the paid version, it has a dedicated rootkit scanner and remover. I am not sure the free version has it, though.

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I think the most important thing is not to browse suspect websites, not to download cracks or warez, not to open mail attachments from adresses you don't know, and not to browse porn sites. :P I don't think any security solution is a 100% protection, they all have flaws, or are not updated frequently enough.

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Burillo wrote:Oh come on, it's 13 years since XP's initial release. upgrade already.
+1

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I follow your advice chk071 and agree nothing is 100% and have still been hit with virus attacks. Many have been repelled by Norton on my internet machine but once a rootkit virus got through.

Malwarebytes removed it (free version fluffy) but still I am not certain everything was cleaned. How would one know for sure except for taking the word of the software or not experiencing any problems? There is always that doubt in my mind.

Happy Musiking!
dsan
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W7, i5, x64, 8Gb Ram, Edirol FA-101

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Indeed, if you want to be absolutely sure, you will have to wipe and format your hard drive. If a secret service has planted a spy program on your computer you will never know by using an anti-malware suite.

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dsan@mail.com wrote:I follow your advice chk071 and agree nothing is 100% and have still been hit with virus attacks. Many have been repelled by Norton on my internet machine but once a rootkit virus got through.
Another very cool thing is the NoScript addon for Firefox, which blocks script content (Java, Flash, Javascript), unless you allow it for domains and subdomains, which should be a very good protection. Still, i have no idea how exactly you get malware on your system, the notorious disinformation everywhere leads me to the conclusion the people writing about it mostly have no idea either, or it's intended not to inform the users.

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Not everything from Windows 7 is nice, Windows XP's search function is better as well as the start menu. And sometimes when you delete files you have to refresh the Windows Explorer.
And at first I had Windows 7 Home, but I couldn't update it to the first service pack. After a dozen updates Windows Update didn't work anymore (always 0%), then I installed Windows 7 Home again, the same problem... When I installed WIndows 7 Professionel SP1, the issue wasn't there anymore.

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dsan@mail.com wrote:Frantz,
I'm curious. Will a software like malwarebytes solve this issue? How would one know if a rootkit was present? (Aside from obvious maliciousness of course).

Can you recommend solutions for these sort of issues?
Unfortunately, you can't be 100% certain about the presence of a rootkit or virus. There is a constant cat and mouse game where the attackers are always trying to get one step ahead of the defenders. None of the scanners are perfect.

If you have an indication that a PC is infected, the best security practice is to reformat the PC.

It is best to take precautionary measures so the likelihood of getting infected in the first place is low, I am typing this on Linux virtual machine (VMWare) running in Win 7. I don't surf the web in Windows on my main PC.

Of course, virtual machines are probably too complicated for people who aren't in IT. The no brainer solution is to surf on an iPad with no dodgy apps installed.
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Interesting, some people cling to XP, postponing 7 as long as possible. Meanwhile 8 is already popular and they are probably working on version 9 as we speak...

I am certainly not an early adopter, but even I use 7, it is pretty robust, never crashes. Some details are indeed unfortunate compared to XP, but nothing really serious that could make me stick to XP.
I hope though that I will not have to switch to 8 ever, I want to stick with 7 till 2020 if possible. By then hopefully Linux applications will be so readily available that I can finally abandon all software from Microsoft/NSA altogether.

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ENV1 wrote:
Burillo wrote: correct me if i'm wrong, but LCD's are way faster than CRT's.
No. They most certainly are not.

Compared with CRTs, LCDs are slow like proverbial molasses in winter.

In fact nothing is faster than a CRT.

(There. Corrected.) :)
OK, my bad :-)
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.

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fluffy_little_something wrote: I hope though that I will not have to switch to 8 ever, I want to stick with 7 till 2020 if possible. By then hopefully Linux applications will be so readily available that I can finally abandon all software from Micrsoft/NSA altogether.
Unfortunately, by the time Linux will be nearly as popular as Windows, there will be as much malware as there is for Windows machines for it... it's all a matter of popularity.

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