Sonic Charge Cyclone - Free tx16w/Typhoon sampler

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gamecat666 wrote:(edit 6 jan 2015) - sounds converted to FXP thanks to Mr_meee (see post below)
Mr_meee wrote: i took all the typhoon data sounds i found... about 150 banks with many instruments inside, and installed them in Cyclone... and then saved the patches into FXP to allow instant loading instead of loading them one by one...
i took me about an entire day to do it...

Download -> http://www.filedropper.com/cyclonesoundbanks

So, now you all have an excelent database of more than 2000 instruments...in only 150mb of fxp data.
It would be good if that could be posted in the Sonic Charge forum - Mr_meee?

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Just made a oldschool industrial track with Cyclone and ableton live.

Mp3 Version
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108 ... yclone.mp3

24bit 48khz Wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108 ... yclone.wav

I used Permut8 as a send effect, and a few Ableton effects but all the sound sources are from Cyclone. Gotta give a shout out to Mr_meee for his work in making that sound bank! There are definitely some good sounds in there! Thank you!
:borg:

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Mr_meee wrote:but, as there are some amazing people who is dedicated (->me <-) to expend hours in order to satisfy ignorand and lazy people who thought this release would be useless...
Half of those are unlooped, without assigned zones, full of wrong modwheel assignments, fully panned left, etc.

Congratulations. Have you at least tried any of 'em? :lol:

You people better download few sounds, learn how the beast works and roll your own patches. Thanx Sonic Charge! :party:

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Cheers for the sounds man, will get put to good use :)
:tu: All is good

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link to the file http://www.filedropper.com/cyclonesoundbanks dosnt work....

can somebody upload it again somewhere.... ?




-Tek

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Speakeasy wrote:link to the file http://www.filedropper.com/cyclonesoundbanks dosnt work....

can somebody upload it again somewhere.... ?
Yes please. :)

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Haven't loaded it up in a while, but I think these are the files. They were saved in my Cyclone folder, at least. Here's a little temporary up for the time being.

http://www7.zippyshare.com/v/9bRwG7Mw/file.html

Contents include:

Typhoon Images 20131230.zip - 56MB
Yamaha Images 20131230.zip - 39MB
A heaping dose of outrageously goofy synth tracks, scores and chiptunes.

https://raddlandstudios.com
https://youtube.com/NorrinRadd22

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Thanks.

But I'm actually rather looking for the converted patches in FXP format mentioned in the first post.
Any chance you (or anyone else) could upload these again also ?

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Thanks. :tu:

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Sorry, still learning how to use it.

But say I've got a sample recorded it already, and I got to SAVE and in format AIFF.

Does the emulator actually save it, and where does it end up in my computer?

Thanks

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Thank you ... :)

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recently when i went to start using this again, i noticed that the Sonic Charge forums evaporated - taking with it pretty much all related info on use, "baking" floppy images, and everything else. via Google i was able to find the "floppy baker" page, but no instructions:

http://soniccharge.com/floppybaker

this really sucks, there was a lot of info (from what i can recall) on that forum regarding Cyclone. as it's a freebie, i've been hesitant to contact them about it.

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does this help?

Cyclone

What is Cyclone?

Sonic Charge Cyclone is a free software emulation of the Yamaha TX16W sampler from 1988. It was written to celebrate that 20 years have passed since the first release of Typhoon for TX16W. Typhoon is an alternative operating system for the TX16W and offers lots of improvements over the original Yamaha operating system. Typhoon was developed by Magnus Lidström who later formed Sonic Charge. The last version of Typhoon is the free Typhoon 2000 and this is the version that runs in Cyclone.

How does it work?

Cyclone is a true hardware emulator. It simulates all the important circuits of the Yamaha TX16W, including the main 68000 CPU, the DSP circuits, the DACs, the ADC and the floppy drive. Much effort has been made to create authentic simulations of all sound generating circuits. You can expect Cyclone to sound 99.9% identical to a real hardware TX16W and it runs the exact same software as a real hardware TX16W.

Where do I find sounds?

Except for the demo sounds on the Typhoon disk we have chosen not to distribute any sounds with the Cyclone installation. You should be able to find links to sound archives in other posts on this forum.

How do I load sounds?

Unless the sounds that you have found are in .fxb or .aupreset format you need to load them manually from disk image files.

Follow these steps to load disk images that contain Typhoon sounds:
1. Click the drive to select an .img file. (This does not load anything. It just inserts the virtual disk into the virtual drive.)
2. [System Setup]
3. [Utility]
4. [7] or [+1] until you get to [Load *]
5. [>] to [Go] and [Enter]
6. Wait and follow any instructions on the display.
7. Click [Performance Select], [Voice Edit] or [Wave Edit] and [+1]/[-1] to browse the sounds.
Use the same steps for loading Yamaha disks except that you should choose [8.Import] instead of [7.Load *].

Notice that some disk images do not have Performances. Some don't even have Voices, just Waves. Furthermore, [Load *] and [Import] do not automatically clear the memory before loading the new sounds. To empty the TX16W entirely, use [System Setup] [Utility] [4.Items] [Delete] [2=All] [Go] or simply click the power button to reboot the TX16W.

I have a zip file containing TX16W files, how can I load them?

Typhoon cannot access files on your computer directly. You need to create a disk image with the files you want to load. Here is one way:
1. Unzip the .zip if necessary.
2. Go to http://soniccharge.com/floppybaker
3. If there are already files in the box on the page, click remove all.
4. Drag and drop the files you want to load to the big box page on the page.
5. Click the smaller box at the top to enter a name for the floppy.
6. Click bake .img file to bake and download the disk image file.
In OS X it is also possible to mount .img files directly in Finder by simply double-clicking them.

Why is this so complicated?

Remember that we are emulating a piece of music machinery from 1988 that runs an operating system that was written between 1991 and 1993 (with some final changes in 1999). All the restrictions of the original machine are there and the software (Typhoon 2000) has not been modified in any way to benefit from almost 20 years of technology advances. Regard Cyclone as a time travel portal to an era from the past. An era of monster dinosaur samplers.

Why is loading so slow?

The emulated floppy drive is "infinitely" fast, but the emulated 68000 CPU (that runs Typhoon) is not. It runs at a fixed rate of 8Mhz to ensure stability and correct audio. The downside to this is that it restricts the transfer rate from the floppy drive too. Notice that you can save the entire state of the machine including all sounds currently in memory to .fxb or .aupreset files. These files load "infinitely" fast.

Can the software be improved?

It depends on what sort of improvements we are talking about. Typhoon 2000 is the last version of Typhoon and in practice it can not be updated. The last time it was compiled was in 1999, using a home made build environment on a Mac that was already old at the time. Recreating this build environment on a modern machine would be a huge, if not impossible task. The emulator (Cyclone) on the other hand can of course be updated.

Can I use the computer keyboard?

Yes. In most hosts you can use the numerical keys, enter, -, cursor up / down (for +1 / -1), cursor left, right and F1 to F8 (for the function buttons beneath the display). Sometimes you need to click the plug-in window to activate it before the keys work.

Can it sample?

Yes, provided that your DAW can route audio to an instrument plug-in. The sampling quality is very close to an original TX16W. Don't forget to turn up the input gain knob on the front panel.

What does the black button next to Voice Edit do?

This button says Filter Edit on a real TX16W, but it does not serve any purpose in Typhoon.

Is there a standalone version?

Not with this release, sorry. Only VST (and AU on Mac). But I can recommend VST Host for PC (http://hermannseib.com/english/) and VSTLord for Mac (http://arne.knup.de/).

Can it run original Yamaha OS?

Sorry, no. The emulator is complete enough to run Typhoon 2000 only. Running the original Yamaha OS would require including ROM that is copyrighted. Typhoon includes an import function that can load original Yamaha sound disks.
 
So, how do I use this thing, really?
 
The place to go for answers is the original Typhoon user guide and the Typhoon 2000 update addendum. If these documents do not help, feel free to post your question here on the forum.



This is an excerpt from the FAQ (  http://soniccharge.c...00-cyclone-faq/ ) that explains how to load the sounds from disk images into Cyclone:
 
1. Click the drive to select an .img file. (This does not load anything. It just inserts the virtual disk into the virtual drive.)
2. [System Setup]
3. [Utility]
4. [7] or [+1] until you get to [Load *]
5. [>] to [Go] and [Enter]
6. Wait and follow any instructions on the display.
7. Click [Performance Select], [Voice Edit] or [Wave Edit] and [+1]/[-1] to browse the sounds.
 
Use the same steps for loading Yamaha disks except that you should choose [8.Import] instead of [7.Load *].
 
You will need to have some patience. Loading is slow. (The technical reason is explained in the FAQ.) But once you find something that you like you can "freeze" the entire machine to an .fxb or .aupreset for instant recall.
 
If you have some unique sounds for this old sampling beast, do not hesitate to share them! If they are not too big you can attach them here on this forum directly.
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Experimental Music https://markdaltongriffiths.bandcamp.com/

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