Vocaloid sounds like crap..
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- KVRAF
- 2448 posts since 12 Sep, 2004
Yeah, when I want a good, powerful voice I'll just record a real one...
But sometimes all I want is the sound of a transvestite android (that I imagine is named "Kim") with a sweet feminine voice, large member, bunny rabbit tail, and Hello Kitty backpack... then I'll reach for vocaloid....
Know what I mean?
But sometimes all I want is the sound of a transvestite android (that I imagine is named "Kim") with a sweet feminine voice, large member, bunny rabbit tail, and Hello Kitty backpack... then I'll reach for vocaloid....
Know what I mean?
You need to limit that rez, bro.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8414 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
I'll pretend I dokbaccki wrote:Yeah, when I want a good, powerful voice I'll just record a real one...
But sometimes all I want is the sound of a transvestite android (that I imagine is named "Kim") with a sweet feminine voice, large member, bunny rabbit tail, and Hello Kitty backpack... then I'll reach for vocaloid....
Know what I mean?
- KVRAF
- 3471 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
I tried to - but the software is such a horrible pain to work with that I gave up.V0RT3X wrote:I don't understand why anybody would want to choose using this over a real singer.
Audio Demos here http://www.mikubook.com/
Product info here
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html ... 60::517559
I think If I needed something like this I would just get a half-decent singer and autotune or melodyne him.
Anyone actually use this stuff?
But I actually can understand why a producer would want to use software over a real singer. I don't know how long time I've been making and recording music - maybe 20-25 years, and during that time I've only met ONE singer I would like to work with again. I mean - most of them knew how to sing. They had their own personal voices and they all had a varying degree of professionalism (which I mean by that you know how use your voice as an instrument). Hell - even people who loves singing and don't have a good voice can be useful as hell!
The problems is that 99.99 percent of all singers I've met are self-absorbed a-holes who really believe that their farts is the perfume of gods. You know when you've been doing take after take (with a professional singer) and you know by heart it sucks - and they consistently deliver the same thing over and over again and think it's absolutely fantastic? No more. I've even got an offer to make music with an incredibly talented singer who can do effing everything from opera to jazz to pop to big-ass-house vocals to whatever. I just couldn't. Give me a plugin with vocals that is good enough and I'll never work with these people again.
But Vocaloid isn't that solution. It actually sucks pretty bad. But considering that everybody AutoTune the hell out of vocals these days just make me think that maybe that's the next big thing.
/C
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 11 Feb, 2008 from The Mountains of VT
this looks pretty promising:kbaccki wrote:Yeah, when I want a good, powerful voice I'll just record a real one...
But sometimes all I want is the sound of a transvestite android (that I imagine is named "Kim") with a sweet feminine voice, large member, bunny rabbit tail, and Hello Kitty backpack... then I'll reach for vocaloid....
Know what I mean?
http://youtu.be/P9AaOkU1WZs
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 18 Jul, 2005
Yeah, it sounds pretty rubbish as a human voice alternative. But it has its own aesthetic. The whole Hatsune Miku thing is pretty crazy, a whole character and mini-industry built around a vocal synthesizer sound pack. It couldn't happen just anywhere. Quoth the wiki: "an android diva in the near-future world where songs are lost.". An android diva in a severely abbreviated schoolgirl uniform, natch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoTd918zhZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoTd918zhZc
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- Waaaaahhh
- 2224 posts since 30 Jul, 2001 from montreal, quebec,canada
V0RT3X wrote:I don't understand why anybody would want to choose using this over a real singer.
Audio Demos here http://www.mikubook.com/
Product info here
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html ... 60::517559
I think If I needed something like this I would just get a half-decent singer and autotune or melodyne him.
Anyone actually use this stuff?
It sounds better in Japanese!
there are japanses pop songs hits that use vocaloid for made up "anime" characters
...like what "gorillaz" use to do
Vocaloid is a text to speech and the speech can follow midi
its a good and quick way to mock up lyrics and associate them to the pitch.
instead of constantly re-recording an audio track because the lyrics keep getting edited
Once done u send the track to one of those website where they record the vocal with high class singers with High-end mics and preamp while u watch and hear the session on Skype.
once done they send you the vocal track Recording
vocaloid just saves alot of time.
If your plugin is a Synth-edit/synth-maker creation, Say So.
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
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- Banned
- 228 posts since 3 Feb, 2014
Not realistic, but a thousand times more comprehensible than the vocals generated by EWQL Choirs Worldbuilder.V0RT3X wrote:I don't understand why anybody would want to choose using this over a real singer.
Audio Demos here http://www.mikubook.com/
Product info here
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html ... 60::517559
I think If I needed something like this I would just get a half-decent singer and autotune or melodyne him.
Anyone actually use this stuff?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8414 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
Sweeeet! I love their lo-fi efforts.Chad@PA wrote:this looks pretty promising:kbaccki wrote:Yeah, when I want a good, powerful voice I'll just record a real one...
But sometimes all I want is the sound of a transvestite android (that I imagine is named "Kim") with a sweet feminine voice, large member, bunny rabbit tail, and Hello Kitty backpack... then I'll reach for vocaloid....
Know what I mean?
http://youtu.be/P9AaOkU1WZs
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- KVRian
- 1274 posts since 9 Mar, 2008 from netherlands
Wow! That sounds very traumatic... Sorry you had such bad experience's.DrGonzo wrote:V0RT3X wrote:I don't understand why anybody would want to choose using this over a real singer.
Audio Demos here http://www.mikubook.com/
Product info here
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html ... 60::517559
I think If I needed something like this I would just get a half-decent singer and autotune or melodyne him.
Anyone actually use this stuff?
But I actually can understand why a producer would want to use software over a real singer. I don't know how long time I've been making and recording music - maybe 20-25 years, and during that time I've only met ONE singer I would like to work with again. I mean - most of them knew how to sing. They had their own personal voices and they all had a varying degree of professionalism (which I mean by that you know how use your voice as an instrument). Hell - even people who loves singing and don't have a good voice can be useful as hell!
The problems is that 99.99 percent of all singers I've met are self-absorbed a-holes who really believe that their farts is the perfume of gods. You know when you've been doing take after take (with a professional singer) and you know by heart it sucks - and they consistently deliver the same thing over and over again and think it's absolutely fantastic? No more. I've even got an offer to make music with an incredibly talented singer who can do effing everything from opera to jazz to pop to big-ass-house vocals to whatever. I just couldn't. Give me a plugin with vocals that is good enough and I'll never work with these people again.
/C
I've been producing vocalists for over thirty years now and the one thing I've learnt is that most singers tend to be a little insecure when recording and that insecurity causes them to act a little psycho sometimes. But we are all different and we all react to situations in different ways, so it's a bit unfair to paint all singers with the same broad brush strokes.
I have had some of the worst and some of the most sublime moments in music making working with vocalists. There is nothing better than bearing witness to that magical moment when a singer records a take so great that it moves you to tears of joy. I've had many such moments luckily.
As far as Vocaloid goes... it really does sound 'meh'.
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
No...it sucks at what it does.cimoc wrote:
My point being, it doesn't suck at what it does, but at what you think is should do
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- 194 posts since 18 Apr, 2014 from the deserts of Sudan
Now wait! Never take a guy any seriously when they are from eh the Netherlands! That's right!
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- KVRist
- 111 posts since 13 Feb, 2014 from vietnam
i admit that japan made good sound/music hardware,software products
but nothing can compare to real vocal,real singer...human voice is the most beautiful thing in the world
synth vocal,singer aren't that bad,sometime, they serve purposes, like a toy,effect,they can be very funny,funky....
but nothing can compare to real vocal,real singer...human voice is the most beautiful thing in the world
synth vocal,singer aren't that bad,sometime, they serve purposes, like a toy,effect,they can be very funny,funky....
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available on kvraudio! Grap it!
available on kvraudio! Grap it!
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 1 Nov, 2006 from Finland
I think that some of you are missing the point of creativity with this one. let's see now 303 emulating bass guitar... no... someone thought that this resonance up full will blow peoples brain out...., Simon "my favorite" poshford used old mac text to speech program to build the vocals to, help me out here was it "Divine moments of truth" you know the lsd thru dmd.... anyway you have to abuse these kinds of programs/tools to find the best of it. Back to the 303 emulating bass guitar yeah right.
Oh and not to forget Boss Hm-2 it shoud sound like huge guitar stack... well it kind of does thru... well anything really. and then we have Swedish metal chainsaw sound. Creativity fellows. abuse it.
Oh and not to forget Boss Hm-2 it shoud sound like huge guitar stack... well it kind of does thru... well anything really. and then we have Swedish metal chainsaw sound. Creativity fellows. abuse it.