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tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:05 pm

Recently I got a new desktop with all the trimmings, Windows 10 pro, i7 6th generation. Tonnes of ram, yadda, yadda.

Many Daw's are being left behind on my old machine for good. I also have little patience for transferring over all my old plug ins. It's time consuming and simply too time consuming to look at all of them when it comes to recording/play time. Even though I have jbridge I'm thinking of leaving all my 32 bit plug ins behind.

What are your thoughts? Is it time to let the past bury itself or are you still clinging to old favorites

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:07 pm

tapper mike wrote:Recently I got a new desktop with all the trimmings, Windows 10 pro, i7 6th generation. Tonnes of ram, yadda, yadda.

Many Daw's are being left behind on my old machine for good. I also have little patience for transferring over all my old plug ins. It's time consuming and simply too time consuming to look at all of them when it comes to recording/play time. Even though I have jbridge I'm thinking of leaving all my 32 bit plug ins behind.

What are your thoughts? Is it time to let the past bury itself or are you still clinging to old favorites

Yes, 32 bit was stone age!

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:09 pm

tapper mike wrote:Recently I got a new desktop with all the trimmings, Windows 10 pro, i7 6th generation. Tonnes of ram, yadda, yadda.

Many Daw's are being left behind on my old machine for good. I also have little patience for transferring over all my old plug ins. It's time consuming and simply too time consuming to look at all of them when it comes to recording/play time. Even though I have jbridge I'm thinking of leaving all my 32 bit plug ins behind.

What are your thoughts? Is it time to let the past bury itself or are you still clinging to old favorites

I stopped using 32 bit plugins a couple of months ago. Most old plugins i used, have been updated to 64 bit luckily. I love the extra ram allocation and i don't like using wrappers/bridges, since they tend to be a little bit less stable (i never used external bridges btw, so can't comment on that).

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:09 pm

Try leaving them behind and than just add ones you really need over time.

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:11 pm

Bury 'em. And any projects still using 32bit synths, bounce to disk, or use something else.
Today is the day!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:24 pm

There are still some 32-bit plugins I cannot quite live without, so they stay with me. NI Pro-53 is one of them. Fuzzpilz Oatmeal is another. SQ8L is yet another. And VAZ Modular, of course.

Thankfully Reaper's bit-bridge is rock-solid, so there are never any issues with these. Yay!

nickamandote · Post by **nickamandote** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:31 pm

I'm in a similar situation, I don't think you should get rid of all, but stick to 64-bit version where available for less headaches.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:39 pm

Same here as for most others.
I use 98% 64 Bit these days but keep my older plugins around and put the ones I don't have as 64 Bit in a specific folder.
Since Bitwig reads both 32 and 64 plugins and allows for multiple VST directories, it's not much of a deal to connect to that folder on demand (or when opening old projects).
So it depends on your host how flexible you can work in that regard.

Jbridge was a bit of a mixed experience for me, the bitbridge in Bitwig is much better and doesn't give me any trouble.

Cheers,

Tom

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:42 pm

If your host has a bit bridge, i don't see a reason why you shouldn't go 64-bit. Not a big fan of bridges though, there are some issues... but the 1% 32-bit only plugins i had are not worth the consideration, so i'm 100% 64-bit now.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:51 pm

I pretty much dumped all my x86 plugs when upgraded my pc to x64 few years ago. Only x86 plugs I have, is g-sonique stuff but they're porting to x64

Now the issue is, that I have too many x64 synths but I can't really start selling them since every one of them is different than others

For example I have Hive so one could mistakingly think, that I don't need Predator. But all those waveforms in P that H doesn't have.. Different sounding filters... Difficult

Then I thought that "hey I'll sell my Diversion license", but guess what? I made sounds so piercing and unique, that I wasn't able to replicate in H or P that now I can't sell my D either

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:03 pm

Lejurai wrote:I pretty much dumped all my x86 plugs when upgraded my pc to x64 few years ago. Only x86 plugs I have, is g-sonique stuff but they're porting to x64

Now the issue is, that I have too many x64 synths but I can't really start selling them since every one of them is different than others
For example I have Hive so one could mistakingly think, that I don't need Predator. But all those waveforms in P that H doesn't have.. Different sounding filters... Difficult Then I thought that "hey I'll sell my Diversion license", but guess what? I made sounds so piercing and unique, that I wasn't able to replicate in H or P that now I can't sell my D either

Exactly. I was on the fence to sell Electra2 in my ongoing sale here, but refrained from it, because i like the JP-8k supersaw pads so much, and don't think i can fully recreate that with one of my other synths.

So they kind of all serve a purpose. And if you feel like there are certain sounds you can do with synth XY, that you like, and feel you need, there's no real point in getting rid of it, and trying hard to replace it with something else, which wouldn't be able to do it in the same quality.

fluffy_little_something · Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:05 pm

I also switched to a 64-bit only system like two months ago. It was a good excuse for tidying up my folders and getting rid of old stuff, and thinking of what I really need.
First I thought I would miss this and that, especially SE stuff, but I don't. The system runs smoothly and I don't miss anything.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:06 pm

i've stayed away from bloated sample based synth plugins so i really have no need for 64bit and its terabyte(or whatever huge amount) memory access advantage over 32bit. therefore x32 win xp and 32bit plugins on my 3gb, 3ghz quadcore satisfy my needs to create electronic music just fine

fluffy_little_something · Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:20 pm

Yes, I haven't noticed any noteworthy resource-related improvements, either. It just feels better

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:35 pm

If you think 64 is the answer I'll be happy to accept your useless 32 bit plugins. Must be for free as I'd have to be stupid to pay for obsolescence. Just think of it as charity for a under privileged savage living in a 3rd world nation (U.S.A.) My tribe thanks you in advance.

Leaving 32 bit plugins behind?