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goleat
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Postby goleat; Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:39 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

sircuit wrote:
goleat wrote:
sircuit wrote:
Could you write on your "next upgrades list" the possibility of introducing sample reverse ability


I think you can do that already in granular synthesis mode.


It may be, but I would like the option for straight samples (one shots) without passing them through a granular engine which is a form of destructive processing


I think the "strength" knob can regulate the intensity between the granular and normal modes.

Maybe, Manuel can explain it better
babel2
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Postby babel2; Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:40 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

So erm....
Is there an eta on granular yet?
I'm loving Avenger & keep checking in here to see how it's going ...

+1 for the idea of an English language section to the VPS forum... or a KVR sub forum. This is a fantastic synth and it'd be nice to check in with the Vengeance using community & share ideas.
I understand that this may take resources that need to go to development but it's still a great idea
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msvs
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Postby msvs; Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:29 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

no eta yet

within the next weeks is still the status
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kevvvvv
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Postby kevvvvv; Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:01 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

Manuel

Have you ever thought about developing an arpeggiator that knows which key the music is in?

Currently most of the arp patterns in Avenger (or any other synth) are melodically useless, and actually a waste of money to buy, as they use fixed intervals that do not transpose.

For example: When changing chord from Cmaj to Amin, the third intervals don't adjust from major thirds to minor thirds.

So I have to manually adjust all my arp patterns to play just 1st and 7th intervals only, which is okay, but can is also very boring as no decent melody can be expressed with the pattern, only a root-5th-8va sequence.

I would love to be able to design my own arp melodies, knowing I could change chord, and it wouldn't sound like it's all gone wrong :)

Can you do this?

Can you access a table that will automatically recalculate 3rd and 7th intervals to fit a known root key?

Commercially, this will allow you to offer much more musical, flexible arp presets than stone age competitors.

thanx = kev
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Postby Razzia; Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:34 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

kevvvvv wrote:Manuel

Have you ever thought about developing an arpeggiator that knows which key the music is in?


I've certainly thought about it, for what that's worth. You can do this in Ableton Live, by combining a Scale device with the Arp device, but Live's arpeggiator is a small fraction as nice as Avenger's. This is why some of us would like the ability to route or export midi from Avenger's arp into our DAW. It would extremely useful.
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msvs
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Postby msvs; Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:41 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

what you mean would require to set your root scale, or the chords you want to use in advance. Quite complicated.
A simple "chord detection" btw is planned our our next bigger synthesis module. More soon


btw good News:
we already built in the Drum Sequencer and ARP Midi import/export. Was less work than assumed. Furthermore VST hosts can now record the Arpeggio output as live midi recording
Lets dance
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Postby Lets dance; Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:54 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

msvs wrote:btw is planned our our next bigger synthesis module.


what do u mean bigger synthsis module ? are you going to release new synth or new update of synthsis mode in avenger?
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msvs
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Postby msvs; Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:57 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

Granular was the first new module.
But we have ideas for more ;)
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kevvvvv
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2083 posts since 23 Oct, 2000, from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Postby kevvvvv; Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:36 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

@msvs

what you mean would require to set your root scale, or the chords you want to use in advance. Quite complicated.


I think a simple chord detection system is all I mean.

I imagined 2 little buttons beneath the octave button in the Arp section, with each button showing a dropdown menu with Key on the left button (C, D, E, F etc) and a Major/Minor dropdown choice on the right button.

Then the arp pattern could be additionally addressed by a "chord recognition" lookup to fix the 3rds and 7ths, based on the root note played. This covers 90% of tunes.

A number of plug devs have already done this, including for midi sequencers, a lot of kontakt sets, and a very few synths.

It extends the melodic capability of arps considerably.

Anyhow, I know you have lots of great ideas already., and I'm looking forward to them.

As a footnote: Over the years, I've seen midi note editing capabilities are often lowest on any synth dev's priority list. But you're a pretty fine counterpoint musician, so maybe you get it :)

And great news on midi import :tu:
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Postby noiseboyuk; Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:59 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

msvs wrote:btw good News:
we already built in the Drum Sequencer and ARP Midi import/export. Was less work than assumed. Furthermore VST hosts can now record the Arpeggio output as live midi recording


That IS good news, thanks Manuel.
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Postby Lets dance; Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:19 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

msvs wrote:Granular was the first new module.
But we have ideas for more ;)


Thank u :hug: :party: :hyper: :clap:
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Postby godly; Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:00 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

btw good News:
we already built in the Drum Sequencer and ARP Midi import/export. Was less work than assumed. Furthermore VST hosts can now record the Arpeggio output as live midi recording

I <3 this.
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One item checked from my functional wishlist.

Drag and drop i presume?

Please get this Synth to the professional level and make a statement in music vst history.
(don't forget the sfz import )
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msvs
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Postby msvs; Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:45 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

(don't forget the sfz import )


how could I... you will remind me :D
HcDoom
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Postby HcDoom; Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:49 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

Is granular module already released or...?
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Postby exmatproton; Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:58 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - is now LIVE!

HcDoom wrote:Is granular module already released or...?


You are kidding right?
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