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msvs
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Postby msvs; Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:25 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

btw all our older VPS plugins have been updated at once. You can find the installers at vengeance-sound / plugins / downloads
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kevvvvv
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Postby kevvvvv; Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:03 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

Is there an actual installer for avenger now?

Like Native Access?
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Hanz Meyzer
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Postby Hanz Meyzer; Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:19 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

msvs wrote:btw all our older VPS plugins have been updated at once. You can find the installers at vengeance-sound / plugins / downloads

? Will there come an fx suite containing all VPS avenger fx, without dongle? Or a vps_avenger_fx.vst ?
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Postby Amram; Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:33 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

Hanz Meyzer wrote:
msvs wrote:btw all our older VPS plugins have been updated at once. You can find the installers at vengeance-sound / plugins / downloads

? Will there come an fx suite containing all VPS avenger fx, without dongle? Or a vps_avenger_fx.vst ?

Thats what i asked rene a few days ago by email.
I told him that serum and synthmaster comes with fx file and he should do this to avenger .
He answerd that i can get the vps fx suite so i answerd him that xfer have lfo tool and still serum can be used as fx.
He didnt answerd me back maybe he will implement the idea .
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Postby hivkorn; Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:53 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

Thats what i asked rene a few days ago by email.
I told him that serum and synthmaster comes with fx file and he should do this to avenger .
He answerd that i can get the vps fx suite so i answerd him that xfer have lfo tool and still serum can be used as fx.
He didnt answerd me back maybe he will implement the idea .


The Fx in Avenger are from the Essential FX Bundle 1&2 ...they were released before avenger
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Postby Hanz Meyzer; Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:22 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

2 dongled fx suites make no sense for a real avenger. It must be exact like avenger fx in one plugin + transferable setting of course.
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Postby MirkoVanHauten; Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:42 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

Hanz Meyzer wrote:2 dongled fx suites make no sense for a real avenger. It must be exact like avenger fx in one plugin + transferable setting of course.

This would make the fx suites obsolete. Don't think they'd do that. And there are fx in Avenger that couldn't be used alone anyways like the arts acoustic stuff.
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Postby sircuit; Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:08 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

MirkoVanHauten wrote:This would make the fx suites obsolete. Don't think they'd do that. And there are fx in Avenger that couldn't be used alone anyways like the arts acoustic stuff.


AA is just one effect unit, it can be removed from a separate FX module (should that be the case). I personally always disable that reverb (also in Nexus) - it instantly removes that "Nexus-y" feel from any sound.

Anyway, the problem with the FX being obsolete is already true for a whole different reason: they're heavy CPU hogs. I was never able to run a finished project on my mac, with a 16-channel loaded Phalanx (that being the only Vengeance plugin in a project). Or if I place 20 Vengeance plugins in a project, the CPU is at 20% with them just sitting and doing nothing. I have heavy channel strips with Softube and SSL plugins, they take 0 CPU in the same conditions.

So with every Vengeance: make a sound, bounce it, use it audio loop or in a sampler (oh the irony when sampling Phalanx to EXS). For this reason alone I wouldn't want any new FX suite, the new code (Avenger) is not solving yet all the reliability problems imho.

Although I must appreciate the latest update, it really solves a serious CPU hit so Rene, kudos for that! :tu:
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msvs
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Postby msvs; Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:10 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

This would make the fx suites obsolete. Don't think they'd do that.


correct, we wont release an Avenger FX suite, since the Avenger FX are mostly taken from our Essential FX Bundles
Hanz Meyzer
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Postby Hanz Meyzer; Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:16 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

:C you lost me at "c" then
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Postby kevvvvv; Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:17 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

xircuit

I must appreciate the latest update, it really solves a serious CPU hit so Rene, kudos for that!


Yeah I noticed this too, big time.

My last Avenger project barely played without some bouncing, and stripping out the fx.

Thanks.
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Hanz Meyzer
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Postby Hanz Meyzer; Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:21 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

MirkoVanHauten wrote:
Hanz Meyzer wrote:2 dongled fx suites make no sense for a real avenger. It must be exact like avenger fx in one plugin + transferable setting of course.

This would make the fx suites obsolete. Don't think they'd do that. And there are fx in Avenger that couldn't be used alone anyways like the arts acoustic stuff.


Could be a update option for avenger customers only... Since that makes sense for mixing using Avenger, but you don't necessarily need all that kind of fx again.
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Postby 100tifiko; Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:53 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

Question is the distortion effect on avenger is it per each voice or it affects all together
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msvs
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Postby msvs; Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:51 pm Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

the Distortion in an insert FX slot is global on the bus, while the "Shaper" Module distortion is per voice
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Postby 100tifiko; Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:25 am Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.0 update with new cross FM mode

msvs wrote:the Distortion in an insert FX slot is global on the bus, while the "Shaper" Module distortion is per voice


Awesome I am going to start using the shaper module more now that I know this thank you
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