One Synth Challenge #100: Lord of the Springs (Taron Wins!)

[TrojakEW]

My quick, short and simple entry. It is interesting synth and I can't miss this round since it is Tarons synth . Good for percs so how can I miss this round.

It will be better if there are labels for all controls visible all the time since one can get lost while tweaking the synth. Also some strange behavior for string B not work for all notes. Got audio buffer overflow when I turn global volume to max (2.0) and hit any note in FL. Need to close FL and reopen project otherwise works fine.


https://soundcloud.com/trojakew/cave
Made for KVR OSC #100
FL Studio 12.3
8 instances of Lord Of the springs
DAW FX's:
1x Fruity Limiter
3x Fruity Stereo Shaper
2x Fruity Prarametric EQ 2
4x Fruity Reeverb
1x Maximus
Other FX's:
4x Amplio 2

[] Peter:H []

My quick, short and simple entry. It is interesting synth and I can't miss this round since it is Tarons synth . Good for percs so how can I miss this round.

It will be better if there are labels for all controls visible all the time since one can get lost while tweaking the synth. Also some strange behavior for string B not work for all notes. Got audio buffer overflow when I turn global volume to max (2.0) and hit any note in FL. Need to close FL and reopen project otherwise works fine.

Nice Track, TrojakEW, think you'll become my benchmark in terms of drums!
But let me ask you this - there's some small parts where my untrained ears hear ugly resonances and secondly i would like to ask if this out-of-tune in some parts is on purpose? There was another user whose track also made my toe nails go up caused by a out-of-tune bass pad...

As I already said, I gave up. Just can confirm some of 574X and Frostlines comments. And after a unpleasant resonance catastrophy which rendered the synth silent until reload of the DAW, I went on "OSC vavation" for this month...anyway not bad, so I could give my MeldaProduction toys some love

[Taron]

Trojak, Fantastic! You've really worked with LotS nature and exposed it. Just gorgeous!
The next release already has some taming aspects, reducing some more the chance of strange accidents.
As for taming the volume knobs, that's the worst trouble with this kind of synthesis. I could prohibit extremes, but it would reduce possibilities on the other end. It's so difficult to balance the output of this. You may never know what I've already had to do to make this approach work in the first place, balancing out frequencies and their interactions, keeping track of what's happening in every stage to tame this sort of beast. It's tough.
LotS is all about taking chances, really, as weird as it sounds. The results can be some of the most natural, living sounds, native to the machine, yet, native to some forces of nature at the same time.
I must show you how it works, what you should be aware of. Before than, nothing you do is your fault, but after that it is!
That sounds harsh and outrageous, I know, but when you realize that this is a specific tool, you'll know not to cut yourself. You know, like a kitchen knife. Thus, it's my fault for not properly introducing you to everything.

HOWEVER, I'm tracking down actual bugs right now and some really did sneak in. And there's my enormous degree of stupidity and ignorance that I have to battle, too. I have to pull myself together this whole time, not to curl into a fetal position under my desk, hahahaha...it's true. Probably rather outside, trembling, with a cigarette in my jittery claws...sort of looking like Gollum at his worst.
(And I'm not even a fanboy...how weird is that?!)

Anyway...I'm on it and already seem to be making some headway!

Thanks for your feedback, hanging in there and for pulling off this beautiful marvel, Trojak!

[TrojakEW]

Peter H: yea I have tried to balance that resonance thing but I have failed . Everytime I tune this for my DT880 become bad for other headphones and vice versa. Synth is making this resonant sound on "sustained" (decay for stringA at 1) , instruments. Out of tune part are on purpurose - not what I really want to do but well . Thanks btw.

Taron: Well LotS is very good for percs. Dont blame you for bugs. I know how annoying is to track what can cause problems especiallly when every DAW can produce different bugs combined with different OS and hardware. It is nightmare.
Consider to adding cutoff mod for filters from note velocity. This is useful for percs. Also as I mention before always visible labels for controls will be helpfull for user while creating presets. Maybe global envelope for controling attack since setting rise > 1 on string lowers overall volume and there is no such a option on string B.
I have found holding shift is used for finentuning, but reset to default (not found it) will be usable too (ctrl+click for example) or type in value.
It is nice synth and it was fun to work with it. Oh and thank you.

Since there are not many presets for now I attached my presets used in my track. Nothing special . One of them use Microtuning feature.

[Taron]

AH, great response, THANK YOU!
I've found one really strange problem with "setChunks" at startup of MuLab. I don't know, yet, what I'm doing wrong, but it spits out garbage, it seems. I must have missed something and will track it down today. This should well be the source for a number of issues, including failing String B, actually. So.... GReAT...and, eh, horrible! I'm still such a noob with VSTs.

I'll figure it out!
As for GUI design, hmmm, well...let me make a video first. Then it'll get more interesting and clearer! I value your input a lot, though. It's not surprising that first time users are puzzled by "unlabeled" dials.

[aluode]

My Entry "Abandoned Bamboo Shack", done with Stock sounds:

https://soundcloud.com/antti-luode/aban ... mboo-shack

It uses 8 instances of lord of the springs and some effectors as reverbs and a few limiters.

The FLP file is at: (5 Abandoned Bamboo Shack.zip)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1t5a ... kVvUnFPMkk

Antti

[nickamandote]

I like the synth, it has nice clean sounds. Started playing with the kick first, then a couple hours later, hey I almost got a song

BTW that snare is MAGIC

[Taron]

...nick, you lift me up! Thanks!
I figured, I should start a thread, dedicated to fixes and improvements, rather than have us squeeze too much technicalities between all the sweet submissions?!
Lord of the Springs v2-The New Powers

I hope, that's a good place and it will be a nice (and quick) platform to get through some of the troubles and I can update you on things!

[nickamandote]

My final submission for the KVR One Synth Challenge 100: Lord of the Springs by Taron

DAW: FL Studio 12

7x Lord of the Springs

FX:
7x Fruity Parametric EQ2
1x TDR Kotelnikov
1x W1 Limiter

DR10

https://soundcloud.com/nickamandote/nic ... -bunny-mix

[asi4]

Another inspiring synth! Thanks, Taron;)
This time I wrote the track very quickly (I think). Just for a couple of days. Usually my writing process lasts much longer.

https://soundcloud.com/andrew-sinitsin/ ... rn-driving

DAW: Reaper 5

Lords Of The Springs 15 instances

DAW native FX:
ReaEQ
ReaDelay
ReaComp

3rd party plug-ins:
D16 Frontier
MAutopan
MCompressor
MUtility
Soundspot FAT
TAL Reverb III
TAL Reverb 4
U-he Protoverb
TDR Slick EQ

[Taron]

omg, you guys get me more and more excited now, this is wonderful stuff!!! ....
...I love it when I (for no reason) squint and think:"How the heck did he do that???"

[doctorbob]

Here's my preliminary submission. It's called Reflective Mood - hopefully enough said.

DAW:Reaper

Track details
14 instances of LotS
4 * MIDI Note Filter
14 * ReaEQ
2 * JS Bass Manager/Booster
1 * Classic Compressor
1 * Classic Master Limiter
2 * TAL Reverb II
1 * TAL Reverb 4
7 * LFX-1310 autopan
1 * Pecheneg Tremolo (sorry Taron, wanted more control!!)

Master
TDR VOS SlickEQ
Ferric TDS
Limiter No. 6

DR 11

I really hope you enjoy this composition and also enjoy the lovely sounds from Lord of the Springs.

https://soundcloud.com/doctorbob/doctor ... he-springs

[Taron]

The composition is really cute, Bob! The mix of the really impressive lead "piano" is a bit harsh... as if a bandpass was pushed to the brim at around 1000hz or so?! A little bit like a very powerful telephone, you know. The rest is VERY pleasant! Very solid job on that!
I hope, you'll get to look into taming that piano lead to bring this one really home.

[doctorbob]

The composition is really cute, Bob! The mix of the really impressive lead "piano" is a bit harsh... as if a bandpass was pushed to the brim at around 1000hz or so?! A little bit like a very powerful telephone, you know. The rest is VERY pleasant! Very solid job on that!
I hope, you'll get to look into taming that piano lead to bring this one really home.

Thanks Taron - yeah, it does hit and ring a bit in the ears ... just wanted to get it out there ... should be able to tame this one ...

I have decided to drop the lead by an octave rather than trying to "tune out" the unwanted harshness - the character of the sound was getting lost trying to EQ it, or worse, re-programming the sound in LotS.

Uploading in a few minutes time.

dB

[rghvdberg]

GOT IT WORKING IN LINUX!

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$ cat /etc/os-release 
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="18 (Sarah)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE=ubuntu
PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 18"
VERSION_ID="18"
HOME_URL="http://www.linuxmint.com/"
SUPPORT_URL="http://forums.linuxmint.com/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/"
UBUNTU_CODENAME=xenial

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$ wine --version 
wine-2.4 (Staging)

winecfg
Dunno if all overrides are necessary, gonna figure that out later on
These are my defaults.




I used Airwave (https://github.com/phantom-code/airwave/releases) to bridge the vst, but it works in Carla too (http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Applications:Carla)

yay!