I made an audio snippet to further describe what i mean:wagtunes wrote:I know exactly what you mean. Trying to do those big punchy plucks on some synths is futile. With some, it's physically impossible. I don't know why as I'm not a scientist, but something about the envelopes for some synths just make them suck for the job. Spire is amazing. Dune 2 is amazing.chk071 wrote:I think you mistake a clicky attack with punch. Different things. What i mean is the chunky, big sound you get with some synths, when you lower the filter decay times, and turn down the filter frequency, vs. the thin, weak sound you get when you do so on other synths.
https://soundcloud.com/chk-sound/envelope-test
First is Spire, second is Retrologue. I deactivated the "warm" sound enhancement in Spire, so, it's the pure sound. I think it shows that - Spire is more clicky in the attack phase - it's more punchy, chunky and weighty - the sound seems more detailled, and a bit more unpredictable. Mind you, Spire is not the punchiest, snappiest synth i ever heard. Monark e.g. is more snappy and punchy. I thought it is more fair in this context to compare similar synths though. And that test is so easy to make, and so easy to judge, that i sometimes lose a bit of faith in humanity, whenever i read here that synth XY is so super snappy and punchy, while, in fact, it is the opposite, really.
And, yes, IMO, it has a big impact on the sound. It might not sound like much in this example, but, do some thicker sounds, do some filter sweeps, try some bass sounds, and, yes, the difference can be quite immense.
