Thorn: Dmitry Sches' new synth!
- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
Just to add my own thoughts on the GUI size thread derailment, I kinda agree with Wags to some extent. The normal size is a little too small for comfortable use IMO, while the large size is too big for my main 1920x1200 monitor. There really should be an inbetween size. Having said that, it is still quite usable. It'll be some time before i can properly demo it, but after a quick browse through the presets it sounds impressive.
Dmitry was very quick to address the GUI size issues with Tantra and overall his support and updates have been top notch, i can't see this being any different.
Dmitry was very quick to address the GUI size issues with Tantra and overall his support and updates have been top notch, i can't see this being any different.
- KVRAF
- 13224 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
thejonsolo wrote:As a test...are you using VST3 or VST2 version?chk071 wrote:Not here. Full license.
I disabled the VST3 version (which was the only one to show up in Cubase, weird) and the VST2 version was recognized. It plays in stereo properly.
So...Thorn VST3 has a bug, at least in Cubase!
shite.... that explains tons....lol
edit: completely different synth as a vst2..... phew, it didn't even occur to me that I was hearing it in mono, it just sounded small and 'dead'....
now it sounds gorgeous.
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 7755 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I tried the VST2 and VST3 versions in Sonar Platinum and the stereo spread works ok here in both.zvenx wrote:thejonsolo wrote:As a test...are you using VST3 or VST2 version?chk071 wrote:Not here. Full license.
I disabled the VST3 version (which was the only one to show up in Cubase, weird) and the VST2 version was recognized. It plays in stereo properly.
So...Thorn VST3 has a bug, at least in Cubase!
shite.... that explains tons....lol
edit: completely different synth as a vst2..... phew, it didn't even occur to me that I was hearing it in mono, it just sounded small and 'dead'....
now it sounds gorgeous.
rsp
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 11 Sep, 2015
you could read it if you listened to me and tried to understand why your resolution isn't fit for your monitor size, which is why you can't ever see anything anywhere. just lower it or get a bigger monitor FFSwagtunes wrote:I looked for a menu. I can't find one anywhere because I CAN'T READ THE DAMN THINGjsp1979 wrote:There's a GUI size selector in the menu. Have you tried that?
or, keep being an annoying idiot with your 17" monitor at 1280*1024.
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- KVRAF
- 7755 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I can confirm the VST3 issue in Cubase 9 here. When I looked in the VST Instrument rack part of Cubase it only showed a mono choice there and my other plugins show stereo outputs.thejonsolo wrote:As a test...are you using VST3 or VST2 version?chk071 wrote:Not here. Full license.
I disabled the VST3 version (which was the only one to show up in Cubase, weird) and the VST2 version was recognized. It plays in stereo properly.
So...Thorn VST3 has a bug, at least in Cubase!
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Damn, i gotta blacklist the VST3 in Studio One ASAP.zvenx wrote:thejonsolo wrote:As a test...are you using VST3 or VST2 version?chk071 wrote:Not here. Full license.
I disabled the VST3 version (which was the only one to show up in Cubase, weird) and the VST2 version was recognized. It plays in stereo properly.
So...Thorn VST3 has a bug, at least in Cubase!
shite.... that explains tons....lol
edit: completely different synth as a vst2..... phew, it didn't even occur to me that I was hearing it in mono, it just sounded small and 'dead'....
now it sounds gorgeous.
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I just re-installed it, and only installed the VST2 version. Every single issue is gone now. Can only recommend to not use the VST3 for now...
One thing i don't quite get though is why the synth sounds so muffled in the lower octaves... like, if a low pass filter was applied. I probably miss something.
One thing i don't quite get though is why the synth sounds so muffled in the lower octaves... like, if a low pass filter was applied. I probably miss something.
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Yep! This is was the first thing I noticed about the synth!exmatproton wrote:+1 on the size. Normal seems too small on a 1080P screen, large too big (doesn't fit)twolegstoneworks wrote:+1 for a size between normal and large. It seems like it's a 100% increase in size for each of the size options. A 50% increase would be better.
Great sound especially for EDM I think. Anyway, most of the new synths are either analog emulation or EDM punchy, aggressive ..etc synth!
It has a very nice workflow. Very fast to manipulate the existing sounds or making my own from scratch The modulations idea of drawing the line, although not original, is very welcome one
The cpu usage is very good, not high at all. about 10% ~ 20%. Seems very stable during the few minutes I demoed it.
The intro price is great I really almost bought it instantly, but I really have so many synths that I'm struggle to keep using! The GUI issue didn't make me worried as I know the developer is very active and sure he would make a size suitable for the FHD monitors (1920x1080).
I believe it is a great synth especially for modern dance music or punchy/aggressive sounds in general. The intro price is no brainer
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- KVRAF
- 4772 posts since 2 Oct, 2008
Finally had a chance to play with it, and I absolutely love it! Thorn is capable of making some very beautiful sounds, very quickly. Wonderful, wonderful, very happy with this synth. I already decided I will buy it and even release a soundset for it
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 11 Sep, 2015
this thing is a fantastic surprise. a wide-scale synth with almost everything on the main panel, everything automates, gorgeous looks and low cpu appears out of the blue! I think this is my first release-day synth purchase, I have zero arguments with that intro price, a bargain.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I really like it too, after initially being a bit put off by the bugs in the VST3 version. Especially like the filters, they're really superb for a synth like this. What i would like was an additional control to set the length of the envelope stages, like in Diversion. And, what i also noticed, the filter envelope closes early, even with full release. I already noticed this behavior in some of the u-he synths. Would be nice to be able to change that, because it makes it a bit hard to program pad sounds with long envelopes. Other than that, really, good stuff.
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- KVRAF
- 4772 posts since 2 Oct, 2008
I'd also like to see longer release times on the envelopes. If it's to save the cpu, it'd be nice to have an option to extend the release times if desired. In the meantime, the reverb can get you a lot of the way there for some huge sounding pads -- easy tails 10 seconds and longer. It's a creative workaround, but still sounds good.
I'd also love for the lfo's not to retrigger. If anyone finds a way, do share
I'd also love for the lfo's not to retrigger. If anyone finds a way, do share
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- KVRAF
- 2912 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
Looking forward to a soundset on this, but loving the included patches.
Size- identical to Dimension. So...yes, a little hard on the eyes.
VST3- I have noticed several synths with this issue. DiscoDSP had a similar issue with Discovery Pro which George fixed before his absence. Hopefully we can get this fixed asap.
There are some other issues that you deeper programmers have that I haven't looked into further, but I have enjoyed messing with this tonight!
Size- identical to Dimension. So...yes, a little hard on the eyes.
VST3- I have noticed several synths with this issue. DiscoDSP had a similar issue with Discovery Pro which George fixed before his absence. Hopefully we can get this fixed asap.
There are some other issues that you deeper programmers have that I haven't looked into further, but I have enjoyed messing with this tonight!