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dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:46 am

Kriminal wrote:.... i dont see how mentioning 'white' is racist

even though it was

.... the whole post was kinda funny...

reflective of how common "casual racism " is

(I'm not "white" btw).

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:59 am

Bronto Scorpio wrote:I'm going to make a 808/909 listening hour and only listen to tracks which use an 808 and/or 909
Does a 606 count as well? Funnily, a lot of my favorite music features a 606. I guess that one sounds "boring" too?
A R8 is often used as well, I guess that one is even more boring? It doesn't even load user samples!
Somehow people still managed to make great music with it. Maybe they were wizards.

I think it's funny how people judge instuments by how often they do or do not appear in "successful" music.

Cheers
Dennis

With the 606? A lot of techno was made with the 606 as a poor man's 808. It is a bit different, I like it too. I'd probably pick one up if it showed up cheap, but I don't need such toys today.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:07 am

dcfac73 wrote:
Kriminal wrote:.... i dont see how mentioning 'white' is racist
even though it was

.... the whole post was kinda funny...
reflective of how common "casual racism " is

(I'm not "white" btw).

The word white didnt come into the equation when i was deciding that his post was funny. I am white, so i must be a racist.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:13 am

This thread is so of topic...

Really needs a come down with a chill pill.

Let's make it more seasonal

...it's as constructive as the Easter bunny on acid!

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:17 am

MFXxx wrote:This thread is so of topic...it's as constructive as a chimpanzee on acid!

Really needs a come down with a chill pill.

The Accent in the TR8, like the reverb, is not per voice. Don't get me started on the missing midi tracks.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:13 am

ghettosynth wrote: The Accent in the TR8, like the reverb, is not per voice. WHAT?

I was surprised when I realized that... I would have assumed that was an essential feature

That will be included in the TR-8 Pro

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:26 am

ghettosynth wrote:

I started this by asking WHO, specifically, is going to use this and for what kind of music? You don't know the answer to that question, so stop repeating yourself with the same non-answers. To you, it's everyone who's never owned an 808/909 and doesn't know any better. Fine, but that's not interesting and it isn't an answer.

The answer is very simple, like it's been provided many times now. Who? People. Normal everyday people who are more concerned about making music, than fulfiling your brief to make some imagined NEW music.

But perhaps Jeff Mills will use it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--e-TE4Nqtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPu8iBuDu-0

Perhaps this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvV35rdBwiU

Perhaps this person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BQbLCWkBJM

Perhaps this person will buy the TR8 in order to boost the TR-808 sounds with 909 sounds ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03WuOjOQx_M

Oh, another live performance, of the sort that you CLAIM that never happens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaEcmsHRNfY

Obviously, this guy is doing something wrong as well, he is using an all hardwrae set up to make music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUtFuBT8YAM

Oh, no! Here's a guy with the actual TR-8 making music! Noooooo! Lucky sod, must have gotten the TR8 early, some of my friends are still waiting for their pre-orders to come through. This is is yet another example of this new generation of musicians, people who no longer relay on software only, and want the full hand's on approach as afforded by hardware:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHK-b_Ho2fw

A live techno set with a whole line of TR-X0X instruments from 2010:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JDgTK5Ln4

This is out of hand. An Elektron Analog box, with TB303, TR8 making acid, co-existing all in one track. I know, this isn't 'NEW' music as in genre breaking stuff - it never was, it's your imagined strawman argument, ghettosynth. It's about just making music, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abqAzbxwh1I

The TR8, before it's even widely available in all shops, inspires some people to buy it, some already have, because they will be able to make music with it. It matters little if you consider the music old or not innovative enough, or what the Roland promo language would want you to believe (don't be so naive). It's always about just making music, like shown in these videos. Have you learned yet?

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:27 am

MFXxx wrote:...it's as constructive as the Easter bunny on acid!

Now that's something to get my attention.

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:41 am

himalaya wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:

I started this by asking WHO, specifically, is going to use this and for what kind of music? You don't know the answer to that question, so stop repeating yourself with the same non-answers. To you, it's everyone who's never owned an 808/909 and doesn't know any better. Fine, but that's not interesting and it isn't an answer.
The answer is very simple, like it's been provided many times now. Who? People. Normal everyday people who are more concerned about making music, than fulfiling your brief to make some imagined NEW music.

But perhaps Jeff Mills will use it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--e-TE4Nqtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPu8iBuDu-0

Perhaps this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvV35rdBwiU

Perhaps this person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BQbLCWkBJM

Perhaps this person will buy the TR8 in order to boost the TR-808 sounds with 909 sounds ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03WuOjOQx_M

Oh, another live performance, of the sort that you CLAIM that never happens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaEcmsHRNfY

Obviously, this guy is doing something wrong as well, he is using an all hardwrae set up to make music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUtFuBT8YAM

Oh, no! Here's a guy with the actual TR-8 making music! Noooooo! Lucky sod, must have gotten the TR8 early, some of my friends are still waiting for their pre-orders to come through. This is is yet another example of this new generation of musicians, people who no longer relay on software only, and want the full hand's on approach as afforded by hardware:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHK-b_Ho2fw

A live techno set with a whole line of TR-X0X instruments from 2010:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JDgTK5Ln4

This is out of hand. An Elektron Analog box, with TB303, TR8 making acid, co-existing all in one track. I know, this isn't 'NEW' music as in genre breaking stuff - it never was, it's your imagined strawman argument, ghettosynth. It's about just making music, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abqAzbxwh1I

The TR8, before it's even widely available in all shops, inspires some people to buy it, some already have, because they will be able to make music with it. It matters little if you consider the music old or not innovative enough, or what the Roland promo language would want you to believe (don't be so naive). It's always about just making music, like shown in these videos. Have you learned yet?

Lol. He must have some weird agenda to try and ruin Roland or something.
It's a bit like some guy trying to persuade you that Jennifer Aniston isn't hot, but you still think she is. "Oh but she doesn't respond to midi CC"

His hate for this thing is such that he actually insults others who want or own it.

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:44 am

Kriminal wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:
Kriminal wrote:.... i dont see how mentioning 'white' is racist
even though it was

.... the whole post was kinda funny...
reflective of how common "casual racism " is

(I'm not "white" btw).

The word white didnt come into the equation when i was deciding that his post was funny. I am white, so i must be a racist.

The use of the "N" word by black people doesn't make it appropriate or not racist.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:47 am

dcfac73 wrote:It's a bit like some guy trying to persuade you that Jennifer Aniston isn't hot, but you still think she is. "Oh but she doesn't respond to midi CC"

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:57 am

Bronto Scorpio wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:It's a bit like some guy trying to persuade you that Jennifer Aniston isn't hot, but you still think she is. "Oh but she doesn't respond to midi CC"

I see plenty of buttons, things to tweak and I'll stay on that topic, sí sí

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Huup3zwJg

This thread needed some enlightenment, thanks bronto/dcfac...

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:01 am

MFXxx wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:It's a bit like some guy trying to persuade you that Jennifer Aniston isn't hot, but you still think she is. "Oh but she doesn't respond to midi CC"

I see plenty of buttons, things to tweak and I'll stay on that topic, sí sí

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Huup3zwJg

This thread needed some enlightenment, thanks bronto/dcfac...

OMG!
Thank you soooo much. Who gives a sh*t about midi cc (or drum machines for that matter)?

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:06 am

We should take a moment to dedicate that clip to all the "old ,middle-aged white dudes" who have misplaced nostalgia for old "Friends" episodes.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:33 pm

dcfac73 wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:
Kriminal wrote:.... i dont see how mentioning 'white' is racist
even though it was

.... the whole post was kinda funny...
reflective of how common "casual racism " is

(I'm not "white" btw).

The word white didnt come into the equation when i was deciding that his post was funny. I am white, so i must be a racist.
The use of the "N" word by black people doesn't make it appropriate or not racist.

i dont really care. I thought it was a funny post that had nothing to do with racism. If you want to make something out of nothing thats up to you.

New Roland "DANCE" hardware- AIRA TR-8, TB-3, VT-3, SYSTEM-1