You do know that integrated circuits can be entirely analog, dont you? Hence the use of SSM and CEM IC's in lots of the 'classic' analog polys; they made those circuits smaller and cheaper.DJ Warmonger wrote:The problem with analog circuits is that they are LARGE and thus expensive, while integrated circuits are not.Well initially the reason that VA was created was to use the rather cheap CPU power available to make synthesizers sound like analog. I suppose that analog circuit ICs are now cheap enough that its almost as cheap to build a real analog.
Korg Minilogue
- Beware the Quoth
- 33177 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 3368 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
From what I've read from a few sources the delay is digital. But the circuitry around it including the feedback signal is analogue.pdxindy wrote:The delay is analog... according to a spec sheet anyway
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2016/01/k ... -nutshell/
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
IIRC, Tats said in a NAMM video that the HPF along with the feedback of the delay are analogue, the delay is digital. I personally really like the digi artifacts of the delay from what I heard!
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- Banned
- 2238 posts since 19 Dec, 2014
3ee wrote:IIRC, Tats said in a NAMM video that the HPF along with the feedback of the delay are analogue, the delay is digital. I personally really like the digi artifacts of the delay from what I heard!
hmm, interesting, i'll check that out again
- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
I was just going to ask about thispdxindy wrote:The delay is analog... according to a spec sheet anyway
Thanks and also thanks for the help and ideas in the other thread. wasn't trying to be rude. I like to do all sorts of African and world music stuff. so the specific features from studio vision pro would be a godsend not to mention all the other awesome ABBA type stuff.
Live is awesome too.. just way different. all sorts of things can be done in any host but lots of composers rave about studio vision pro and the features they had in the 90's that they have not been able to find in newer daws.
- KVRAF
- 16398 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
The delay is digital and sounds very similar to me to the delay in the Volca Keys, i.e. quite noisy and not clean at all. It is dirtier than BBD analog delays like the Moog or MXR but not as dirty as the Electro Harmonix's.JCJR wrote:Is the delay in fact digital? I haven't a clue. Because some complain that the delay is a little too noisy for comfort, I guessed it might be analog. Even very cheap digital delays tend to be fairly low noise and clean, compared to BBD analog delays.
Edit: If the delay time and mix can be recorded by the motion sequencer, then one could make manual chorus by setting the mix about 50/50 and then record a motion sequence by manually twiddling the delay knob at the desired speed and depth.
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
Thank Uncle E.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 764 posts since 2 Jun, 2004
The delay is digital, but the feedback and HP filter is actually analog.
The output switch enables you to run the entire signal through the HP filter, or just the feedback.
The output switch enables you to run the entire signal through the HP filter, or just the feedback.
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Custom integrated circuits cost as well, especially in low-volume production.whyterabbyt wrote:You do know that integrated circuits can be entirely analog, dont you? Hence the use of SSM and CEM IC's in lots of the 'classic' analog polys; they made those circuits smaller and cheaper.DJ Warmonger wrote:The problem with analog circuits is that they are LARGE and thus expensive, while integrated circuits are not.Well initially the reason that VA was created was to use the rather cheap CPU power available to make synthesizers sound like analog. I suppose that analog circuit ICs are now cheap enough that its almost as cheap to build a real analog.
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
To me this is actually a bonus. I have plenty of clean delays if I want them. But that Volca / Monotron delay is NASTY!Uncle E wrote:The delay is digital and sounds very similar to me to the delay in the Volca Keys, i.e. quite noisy and not clean at all. It is dirtier than BBD analog delays like the Moog or MXR but not as dirty as the Electro Harmonix's.JCJR wrote:Is the delay in fact digital? I haven't a clue. Because some complain that the delay is a little too noisy for comfort, I guessed it might be analog. Even very cheap digital delays tend to be fairly low noise and clean, compared to BBD analog delays.
Edit: If the delay time and mix can be recorded by the motion sequencer, then one could make manual chorus by setting the mix about 50/50 and then record a motion sequence by manually twiddling the delay knob at the desired speed and depth.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
- KVRAF
- 16398 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
I thought you might like that.deastman wrote:To me this is actually a bonus. I have plenty of clean delays if I want them. But that Volca / Monotron delay is NASTY!
To me, it's a bit much. The Minilogue can already get dirty enough without the delay adding to it. I'm hoping it can be cleaned up by changing output settings or tweaking the HPF.
- Beware the Quoth
- 33177 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
The monotron delay sounds like everything wonderful in a PT2399, especially underlocked. Best random noise source evar.deastman wrote:But that Volca / Monotron delay is NASTY!
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
The Monotron Delay was what started me down the path of acquiring these small, cheap synths. I had $40 in eBay bucks to spend, so I bought one and was hooked! It is ALL about the delay, and exploring every possible permutation of the limited parameter set, squeezing out every unique trick that the Monotron Delay is capable of. Its really quite meditative. Obviously I have higher expectations for the Minilogue, and it probably would have been better if the delay were less noisy, but I'm fully willing to embrace it for what it is.whyterabbyt wrote:The monotron delay sounds like everything wonderful in a PT2399, especially underlocked. Best random noise source evar.deastman wrote:But that Volca / Monotron delay is NASTY!
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland
If anyone here wants the clicky one, go to GS and talk to this guy:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... h-131.html
Maybe you can haggle a good price.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... h-131.html
Maybe you can haggle a good price.
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