MTuner noisegate at -20db?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
MTuner seems to stop working for levels below -20db. That's a pretty high noisegate. When I plug my guitar and want to tune it, the tones are between -20db and -40db. Can the noisegate be adjusted?
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14039 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hmmm, ok, I'll check and potentially add it to to-do list. But generally there needs to be a gate, otherwise it would start generating random notes where there are none. This is especially relevant for MTuner MIDI output.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
Yeah a gate is ok, but maybe -40db is fine for all purposes. Thanks in advanceMeldaProduction wrote:Hmmm, ok, I'll check and potentially add it to to-do list. But generally there needs to be a gate, otherwise it would start generating random notes where there are none. This is especially relevant for MTuner MIDI output.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14039 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Not really, it would pick up lots of noise unfortunately.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
Noise at -40db? Never had such loud noise in any recording in all the years dealing with audio. I think that is really unrealistic. Noise nowadays is below -55db for 100% sure, normally much lower like between -60 and -90db.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14039 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
That's not the issue! People may not use it as tuner! They may use it as audio->MIDI convertor. Or use the tuner after processing. And in that case -40dB is perfectly realistic and may not mean noise, but lots of background stuff... imagine tuning acoustic guitar with a condenser microphone..
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
I put the ampsim as the first plugin in the guitar track chain, so I can't use the output of that for the tuner since it already contains distortion, reverb, chorus, delay etc.
For me, MTuner is almost unusable as a guitar tuner which is really sad since I liked it before. Nobody else having this problem with it?
This high noisegate wasn't there all the time, it was introduced somehwere around the 8.00 release I think.
Maybe you can create two modes, Tuner mode and Audio-To-Midi mode?
For me, MTuner is almost unusable as a guitar tuner which is really sad since I liked it before. Nobody else having this problem with it?
This high noisegate wasn't there all the time, it was introduced somehwere around the 8.00 release I think.
Maybe you can create two modes, Tuner mode and Audio-To-Midi mode?
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14039 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Already solved - next version will have a threshold at -40dB. Personally I found this interesting, because at the point the plugin stopped responding the signal level was so low, so it was barely audible, but it seems it is not a problem to simply make the threshold low, so so be it
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
OK very cool
Yes it is a pretty low level and barely audible at moderate listening volume, but that seems to be the normal instrument (guitar) level that all the ampsims work well with.
Anyway, thanks a lot for changing it
Yes it is a pretty low level and barely audible at moderate listening volume, but that seems to be the normal instrument (guitar) level that all the ampsims work well with.
Anyway, thanks a lot for changing it
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14039 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hehe, sure , no problem