THX-15 - ElectroProg (Seismic Dirge)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
Frantz, the latest version has a 1dB cut on that lead synth that comes in at 4:21. Additionally, there is a 2dB increase in the piano volume beginning at 2:45, with a further 1dB increase at 5:00.
- KVRAF
- 6325 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
A 1 dB cut is small but large enough that I should be able to hear so I did some investigation.seismic1 wrote:Frantz, the latest version has a 1dB cut on that lead synth that comes in at 4:21.
I loaded both MP3s in Reaper and looped them from 4:21 to 4:24, capturing the peak dBs on Reaper's meters. Comparing the two files in this 3 second period, the left channel peak went down by -0.6 dB and the right channel peak went up by +0.6 dB. -0.6 + 0.6 = 0.0 or no total change. See below.
After doing all of that, I realized the sound was panning back and forth across the stereo field and was in different locations at 4:21 in both versions. So comparing the two files at one specific point in time is not valid.
In fact, hearing a 1 dB difference in a panning sound, which is changing volume continuously, is very tricky. But at least I now understand why I couldn't easily hear a difference.
In any case, the music is great and it was good to give this another listen.
- KVRAF
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- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
Thanks very much for listening and commenting, dexterbella. I hope the levels made more sense on subsequent listening. Glad you liked itdexterbella wrote:The levels seemed a bit out on this in places but I was only listening on crappy speakers so it's probably down to that! Overall I really liked this an awful lot.
- KVRAF
- 2645 posts since 21 Jul, 2004
fantastic track Tim. the tentative atmosphere created in the first part is excellent.
neil.
neil.
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 11 Sep, 2006 from along the rivers edge in northern Ontario
thats a cool dark piano line and I liked the echoey synth stab too. great finish, I could hear a sustainy git solo fitting in at the end too
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
Thanks very much for listening and commenting, Clint. Glad you liked itclintmartin wrote:Great work as always! Very good.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
Thanks very much for listening and commenting, V0RT3X. Glad you liked itV0RT3X wrote:Nice work on this! I like how the synth melody builds in it @ 2:02 and how the piano clashes in a good way with it. It sounds mysterious and dark, Great work! Love the sound of the vocal synth too!
around 4:39 the sound of the guitar sounds i noticed are a bit bright but other than that i think it is mixed very well.
Cheers!
That synth sound at the end seems to be mildly controversial. I quite liked the contrast with the other, softer sounds
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from vancouver
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
My main goal here was to make the piano part slightly more prominent during the final section. I hope I was at least partially successfulFrantz wrote: A 1 dB cut is small but large enough that I should be able to hear so I did some investigation.
I loaded both MP3s in Reaper and looped them from 4:21 to 4:24, capturing the peak dBs on Reaper's meters. Comparing the two files in this 3 second period, the left channel peak went down by -0.6 dB and the right channel peak went up by +0.6 dB. -0.6 + 0.6 = 0.0 or no total change. See below.
After doing all of that, I realized the sound was panning back and forth across the stereo field and was in different locations at 4:21 in both versions. So comparing the two files at one specific point in time is not valid.
In fact, hearing a 1 dB difference in a panning sound, which is changing volume continuously, is very tricky. But at least I now understand why I couldn't easily hear a difference.
In any case, the music is great and it was good to give this another listen.
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- KVRAF
- 2086 posts since 11 Feb, 2003
This is put together great! Everything thing fits like a team...piano sounds fantastic.
Makes me think of Deus Ex...strange the way that works...but cool.
Makes me think of Deus Ex...strange the way that works...but cool.
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- D.H. MOD
- 16424 posts since 21 Jun, 2008
Ah, the dirge. I really like the piano on this. That and the sense of quiet menace. The vocal bit took me by surprise, but it works well. Another piece enjoyed. Thanks, seismic1.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
macmurphy wrote:fantastic track Tim. the tentative atmosphere created in the first part is excellent.
neil.
Thanks very much for listening and commenting, Neil. Glad you enjoyed it
- KVRAF
- 6325 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
I can confirm that the piano is a bit more audible during the final section.seismic1 wrote: My main goal here was to make the piano part slightly more prominent during the final section. I hope I was at least partially successful
I'm still startled when that lead synth enters in the final section. It certainly provides a contrast.
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- KVRian
- 892 posts since 14 Apr, 2004 from Maryland, USA
I'm hard-pressed to consider it a dirge, but maybe. I think a kind of melancholy meditation. I love that wonderful gradual build through the whole piece that you've achieved, the result feels unified / consistent but never dull. Good stuff.
DaveL
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- KVRAF
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- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
Thanks for listening and commenting, wavephonic. Glad you liked itwavephonic wrote:thats a cool dark piano line and I liked the echoey synth stab too. great finish, I could hear a sustainy git solo fitting in at the end too
I plan to record something on the guitar later this year, although probably not a conventional solo