Why does my Mac reopen programs when restarting without being told to?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
The restart command brings up a checkbox to "Reopen windows when logging back in" - I always leave it unchecked but regardless, if I have any programmes open it will reopen them on startup. Why does it ignore this setting? If I reboot my Mac I expect it to open with nothing loaded except the programmes I have specifically set to be startup programmes. Otherwise how can I use restart to start the system afresh with a minimal amount of programmes loaded into memory, particularly annoying if I have a misbehaving programme I don't want to reload on startup. Is there any way to get it to behave as one would expect?
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- KVRist
- 441 posts since 7 Mar, 2011 from Pleasanton, CA
I usually quit my apps, wait ten seconds, and then restart. If I don't wait, then it sometimes restarts a few of the apps I had open.
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
I've managed to turn that behaviour feature off (well most of the time, it still happens occasionally) but can't remember the setting.
Is "Close windows when quitting an application" checked in Preferences > General?
Is "Close windows when quitting an application" checked in Preferences > General?
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
Could also try this command line setting:
(found on this thread https://discussions.apple.com/thread/32 ... 0&tstart=0)
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defaults write -g ApplePersistence -bool no
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Thanks - that thread is exactly what I needed:ZenPunkHippy wrote:Could also try this command line setting:
(found on this thread https://discussions.apple.com/thread/32 ... 0&tstart=0)Code: Select all
defaults write -g ApplePersistence -bool no
I can't understand why Apple think this reopening behaviour is a good thing, or why unchecking an option to reopen windows on Startup should not do what it says it should do. One of the key principles of interface design is people need to get predictable results from their actions - they should know this - they seem to be gradually forgetting everything Don Norman taught them. I'll try that string, I presume it can't do any harm?And one of them is the computer crashing and restarting on it's own, but of course it restarts by opening EVERY window of EVERY application that was running when it crashed....which of course creates ANOTHER crash.
- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
According to this thread the "ApplePersistence" setting disables auto open along with auto save + versioning:
http://apple.stackexchange.com/question ... plications
If that doesn't bother you, yes it's safe to use. You can always re-enable by passing "yes" as the final parameter:
http://apple.stackexchange.com/question ... plications
If that doesn't bother you, yes it's safe to use. You can always re-enable by passing "yes" as the final parameter:
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defaults write -g ApplePersistence -bool yes
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
i guess the assumption is that the only time a restart is necessary, is when things start crashing in the middle of what you are doing. in such cases, it would be convenient to launch back into the same workflowaMUSEd wrote:I can't understand why Apple think this reopening behaviour is a good thing
but, as you said, it should do what you choose to, if it gives the option
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Actually that's great - autosave is another annoying 'feature' I could do without.ZenPunkHippy wrote:According to this thread the "ApplePersistence" setting disables auto open along with auto save + versioning:
http://apple.stackexchange.com/question ... plications
If that doesn't bother you, yes it's safe to use. You can always re-enable by passing "yes" as the final parameter:
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defaults write -g ApplePersistence -bool yes
thanks - I see I am not the only one with this problem
- KVRian
- 755 posts since 25 Aug, 2009
I hate to be that guy, but my MBA only reopens programs on restart when I tell it to. The only offender was Chrome, because Google is a f**king asshole and installs it to autorun on your account when you sign in (Windows, too, and yeah, I know it's for Google Now or something, but it was still annoying), but that can be disabled under Settings -> Accounts -> Login Items.
Meh.