6 core vs 4 core CPU
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 173 posts since 22 Jul, 2015
Hello...
I've been wanting to build a gaming rig, but I also want to use it for music production. Everything I read says quad core is plenty for gaming, but if you want to use it for production, go for 6 core...
Is it really worth it to get a 6 core?
It would be nice for processing lots of plugins but then again there is always freezing or bouncing.
What do you guys think? Is it worth it?
I've been wanting to build a gaming rig, but I also want to use it for music production. Everything I read says quad core is plenty for gaming, but if you want to use it for production, go for 6 core...
Is it really worth it to get a 6 core?
It would be nice for processing lots of plugins but then again there is always freezing or bouncing.
What do you guys think? Is it worth it?
has anyone see Maitake ?
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Theoretically DAWs can utilize many cores easily. In practice, we need brave tester to try it out.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
You don't choose a computer for today's software but for tomorrow's.
Go 6 core. If finances permit.
Go 6 core. If finances permit.
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- Banned
- 1236 posts since 8 Apr, 2013
Basically IMO it's more important to have enough power in one core. For example I'd rather take 4ghz 4 core than 2.8ghz 6 core. Mostly because there are also plugins that only use one core so..
Aaaaaand rather than 6 core, I'd buy 8 core
Aaaaaand rather than 6 core, I'd buy 8 core
- KVRist
- 158 posts since 24 Jun, 2016 from Austin, Texas
I agree that Core and the clock speed of your cores is very important BUT do not forget to look at things such as FSB and your Cache. Those two small things can make a HUGE difference. And they are often overlooked when discussing/debating Custom Build Components.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 173 posts since 22 Jul, 2015
Okay, so I did two builds two find out the difference in price...
The difference between these two builds is $171.21 USD.. So it's not a tremendous difference, but like Lejurai said, it might be better to go for more clock speed. The 4 core is 4.0 ghz and the 6 core is 3.4 ghz.
z170 (4 core):
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DH8nnn
x99 (6 core):
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zp36XH
Any comments on the builds are welcome..
http://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Int ... o-3_50-GHz
The difference between these two builds is $171.21 USD.. So it's not a tremendous difference, but like Lejurai said, it might be better to go for more clock speed. The 4 core is 4.0 ghz and the 6 core is 3.4 ghz.
z170 (4 core):
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DH8nnn
x99 (6 core):
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zp36XH
Any comments on the builds are welcome..
I'm not entirely sure what to look for when you say Front side bus and Cache. I googled and read a little but still not sure what to look for. Would you be able to tell by looking at those builds?DJbrimLo wrote:I agree that Core and the clock speed of your cores is very important BUT do not forget to look at things such as FSB and your Cache. Those two small things can make a HUGE difference. And they are often overlooked when discussing/debating Custom Build Components.
Why not 10? (I would get the 8 too, but the price really seems to jump between 6 and 8 )Lejurai wrote: Aaaaaand rather than 6 core, I'd buy 8 core
http://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Int ... o-3_50-GHz
has anyone see Maitake ?
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- KVRAF
- 35439 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I don't think you can go wrong with the 4-core option. Seems to be quite a high end CPU, and will run audio applications and games satisfactory. Tbh, rather than deciding based on the number of cores, i'd rather check out some benchmarks, and see which gives you more power, as those are real life tests against just going by specs. But, as i wrote, i don't think the 4 core is a bad decision in any case.
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Also check the threading capability of your cpu, goto plugins, and daws.
Diva, and maybe some other plugins, respond to threads.
Most daws should, but with varying results.
A quadcore may have 8 or more threads, some perhaps underutilized depending
on the software, or even getting in the way, in some sad cases.
Some general cpu/core/threading info in this article, 8 years old, as it may be.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advic ... usicians#3
a more recent discussion from Studio 1 ville:
https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.p ... 28231b4059
with a bonus dust-up when someone comparison tests a session
with reaper and S1, and the winner was...
Diva, and maybe some other plugins, respond to threads.
Most daws should, but with varying results.
A quadcore may have 8 or more threads, some perhaps underutilized depending
on the software, or even getting in the way, in some sad cases.
Some general cpu/core/threading info in this article, 8 years old, as it may be.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advic ... usicians#3
a more recent discussion from Studio 1 ville:
https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.p ... 28231b4059
with a bonus dust-up when someone comparison tests a session
with reaper and S1, and the winner was...
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
10 core or nothing.
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- KVRAF
- 2185 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa
For audio, a faster processor speed will help more with latency (generally speaking, and all other things being the same). That said, it also depends upon what you plan to record--individual audio tracks or multi-sample VST libraries?
Keep in mind that, for serious gaming, you'll need a serious video card. Audio doesn't need this, and some of these apps and services may cause problems with your audio setup.
Steve
Keep in mind that, for serious gaming, you'll need a serious video card. Audio doesn't need this, and some of these apps and services may cause problems with your audio setup.
Steve
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Are you using ONE plugin instance for your entire project?Basically IMO it's more important to have enough power in one core. For example I'd rather take 4ghz 4 core than 2.8ghz 6 core. Mostly because there are also plugins that only use one core so..
Also core clock doesn't indicate CPU power since 8 years or so. People, wake up
Absolutely. Cache size is a bottleneck since plugins get bigger and consume more memory.do not forget to look at things such as FSB and your Cache
Could somebody please tell how Serum works on a CPU with more than 8 MB of Cache?
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- KVRAF
- 4823 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
6-core: The price diff between 6700K and 6900K is much less than the performance boost.
To compare CPUs: cpuboss.com
To compare CPUs: cpuboss.com
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- KVRAF
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
This chart covers both of those chips. I'd take the 6 core personally.
http://www.scanproaudio.info/2016/06/28 ... of-choice/
http://www.scanproaudio.info/2016/06/28 ... of-choice/
We've come a long way since that article was written however. A good sequencer should be allocating plugins smoothly across those cores. You can't split a plug in (well you could, but the overhead it would eat would be huge), but it should be stacking them per core, so that its used as efficiently as possible. If you have a single plug in that is hard coded to always use the same core... well it's time to pick up a plug in with better coding to replace it. If you have a sequencer that can't load balance itself properly, well... that's pretty inexcusable these days.glokraw wrote:Also check the threading capability of your cpu, goto plugins, and daws.
Diva, and maybe some other plugins, respond to threads.
Most daws should, but with varying results.
A quadcore may have 8 or more threads, some perhaps underutilized depending
on the software, or even getting in the way, in some sad cases.
Some general cpu/core/threading info in this article, 8 years old, as it may be.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advic ... usicians#3
Given Reaper has one of the best performing engines out there, I don't have to even open the thread to be able to work out how that one went down!glokraw wrote: a more recent discussion from Studio 1 ville:
https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.p ... 28231b4059
with a bonus dust-up when someone comparison tests a session
with reaper and S1, and the winner was...
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
AMD is working on a 32-core processor
I agree with those that say fewer yet faster cores are better than more yet slower cores. A number of programs and plugins still seem to use only one core, others use more but multithreading might not work as planned. So it makes sense to have really fast cores, even if it's just 4 of them.
I agree with those that say fewer yet faster cores are better than more yet slower cores. A number of programs and plugins still seem to use only one core, others use more but multithreading might not work as planned. So it makes sense to have really fast cores, even if it's just 4 of them.
- KVRAF
- 1803 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
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But I'd take 6 core over 4 anyday, and in a fact, I did 3 years ago. Never regretted. Never hit over 60% in our projects (except in mastering).
there's one route
But I'd take 6 core over 4 anyday, and in a fact, I did 3 years ago. Never regretted. Never hit over 60% in our projects (except in mastering).
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