One computer, lots of doubts...
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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As I am building my new computer, I notice that all brands seem to get good and bad reviews. So, what are currently the best brands for:
- motherboards
- RAM
- hard drives
- power supplies?
For the first three categories there don't seem to be no-brand products, still some have a better reputation than others.
Is it true that one should not mix an AMD-based computer with a Nvidia graphics card, nor likewise an Intel-based computer with AMD graphics?
Can I use an older passively cooled graphics card like this:
https://www.cnet.com/products/sapphire- ... -gb/specs/
in a very modern Ryzen-based computer?
That graphics card is way more capable than my current on-board graphics solution, which is already enough for my needs (no video gaming whatsoever, nor image manipulation such as Photoshop). The only thing that moves on my monitor is the occasional YT video and ad banners
- motherboards
- RAM
- hard drives
- power supplies?
For the first three categories there don't seem to be no-brand products, still some have a better reputation than others.
Is it true that one should not mix an AMD-based computer with a Nvidia graphics card, nor likewise an Intel-based computer with AMD graphics?
Can I use an older passively cooled graphics card like this:
https://www.cnet.com/products/sapphire- ... -gb/specs/
in a very modern Ryzen-based computer?
That graphics card is way more capable than my current on-board graphics solution, which is already enough for my needs (no video gaming whatsoever, nor image manipulation such as Photoshop). The only thing that moves on my monitor is the occasional YT video and ad banners
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Gee, why do so many motherboards have built-in light shows these days?! Makers should spend the extra money on better components rather than silly LED gimmicks
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I think mixing Intel and AMD is not an issue. At least i wouldn't really have doubts to put a AMD graphics card with an Intel processor. Not that i'd really consider AMD though.
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- KVRian
- 1021 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
I've used one of those radeon 6450 passives in a machine at work - performance wise they're no better (and possibly worse) than the onboard graphics of any modern intel board, save your money or go up to something like the passive 7750 (which at least has enough 2d/3d performance to beat the obgfx)
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- 8182 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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What's Scan?
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- 8182 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Thanks, they seem to be focused on Intel systems...
I think I already found my motherboard:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%2 ... /index.asp
Very good reviews across different sites
Now I have to study the compatible memory list...
It has all become so complicated, single this, double that
ASrock have come a long way, their boards seem to be the best, at least for the new AMD platform. A decade ago they made mostly mediocre stuff. Their site is also useful.
I think I already found my motherboard:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%2 ... /index.asp
Very good reviews across different sites
Now I have to study the compatible memory list...
It has all become so complicated, single this, double that
ASrock have come a long way, their boards seem to be the best, at least for the new AMD platform. A decade ago they made mostly mediocre stuff. Their site is also useful.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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So, have SSD already replaced conventional hard drives by now?
Could I use this thing here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing/mem ... -7ke256bw/
like a normal hard drive, i.e. as the only drive? After 7 or 8 years I am only using 85GB of my 1TB hard drive, so 256GB should be more than enough for the 10-year life of that SSD.
Do such drives also need a fan for cooling?
Could I use this thing here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing/mem ... -7ke256bw/
like a normal hard drive, i.e. as the only drive? After 7 or 8 years I am only using 85GB of my 1TB hard drive, so 256GB should be more than enough for the 10-year life of that SSD.
Do such drives also need a fan for cooling?
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- KVRian
- 1021 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
absolutely - only market for HDDs is either for really BIG amounts of storage where speed doesn't matter, or at the absolute bottom end of the price range.fluffy_little_something wrote:So, have SSD already replaced conventional hard drives by now?
Could I use this thing here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing/mem ... -7ke256bw/
like a normal hard drive, i.e. as the only drive? After 7 or 8 years I am only using 85GB of my 1TB hard drive, so 256GB should be more than enough for the 10-year life of that SSD.
Do such drives also need a fan for cooling?
Any modern motherboard should have a m.2/nvme socket - in which case you'd be better of getting a samsung 900 series (m2 format) - not any dearer, and much much faster (and in 2000mb/s vs 400mb/s), also leaves a 3.5" drive bay spare for if you ever need to add a HDD for storing bulky sample/audio files.
longevity on SSDs is directly related to number of write cycles, so since it sounds like you really don't use your hard drive much I'd expect an ssd to last a crazy long time (outlasting a hdd which is generally spinning the whole time your PC is on and hence slowly wearing out)
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Never had an SSD drive so far, except maybe in the form of a USB pen drive. No conventional hard drive has ever died on me, but several USB pen drives have, which has so far kept me from using an SSD drive.
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- KVRAF
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
Gamers, just get a business edition board, those are more likely to be fine for audio.fluffy_little_something wrote:Gee, why do so many motherboards have built-in light shows these days?! Makers should spend the extra money on better components rather than silly LED gimmicks
Yes, and this is why : http://www.scanproaudio.info/2017/03/02 ... for-audio/fluffy_little_something wrote:Thanks, they seem to be focused on Intel systems...
Whilst they've not really improved since for audio, I'm at least confident that the performance hole is a constant and that it isn't going to get any worse. I'll probably expand out with a few systems in the future now I'm more confident, it's on the to do list anyhow.
It's also out of date before they even print the manual!fluffy_little_something wrote: Now I have to study the compatible memory list...
It has all become so complicated, single this, double that
Yes indeed, pendrives and SSD's are two very different beasts.chk071 wrote:Nowadays SSD's will outlive your computer, especially when you opt for the longer lasting variants, like MLC or SLC.
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- KVRist
- 173 posts since 1 Jun, 2005
for gamers and modders who like to see the innards...exactly whats the frikken point of thatfluffy_little_something wrote:Gee, why do so many motherboards have built-in light shows these days?! Makers should spend the extra money on better components rather than silly LED gimmicks
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- KVRian
- 826 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
For power supplies this one is pretty solid:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010HWDO ... UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010HWDO ... UTF8&psc=1