Tokyo Dawn Labs

The Telenator · Post by **The Telenator** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:17 pm

I checked Feedback Compressor for CPU usage not long ago and saw that it was no lightweight, but it wasn't unreasonable for this style of compression either. There more too it than the simpler peak compression of other plugins. But now I see a possible reduction of up to 30%? All I can say is 'wow' and congrats.

I liked this plugin from day one, but the kind of dedication and hard work from Tokyo Dawn Labs impresses me even more. I also have and sometimes employ the joint-project result Proximity. I'm thinking that perhaps sometime this year it might be a grand idea of considering further, other plugin design. Based on the devotion to quality I've seen so far, TDL's track record is firmly established and the reputation goes with it.

FabienTDR · Post by **FabienTDR** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:19 am

Thanks for the nice words!

Of course, I'm already working on new processors. Further collabs with Vlad(g) are very probable, too.

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:27 am

FabienTDR wrote: Of course, I'm already working on new processors. Further collabs with Vlad(g) are very probable, too.

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BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:30 am

FabienTDR wrote:
Beatworld wrote:...imagine if you charged just $10
I run a record label in 2013, I know for sure something isn't right with this equation

In any way, I'm really happy about the nice buzz. Thanks to everyone spreading the word!

Ha! I like a man with a sense of realism

Thanks for porting this over to OS X by the way. Really a very nice compressor.

The Telenator · Post by **The Telenator** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:31 am

You are welcome, Fabien, but you deserve the praise. I know you had to work out a couple of quirky dodgy items in that plug along the way. Appreciated.

Hey DuX -- I just noticed your signature line. That's a pretty deep thought, and now I'm wondering why some Dr Phil type never told us anything like that before!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:26 am

So I just tried out beta 8 in Cubase 7 Mac, 32-bit, and the CPU has increased for me about, oh, I'd say, 1000%. My CPU meter was suddenly maxed out, and Feedback Compressor was the culprit. Not sure if anyone else is getting this.

Beatworld · Post by **Beatworld** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:02 am

bduffy wrote:So I just tried out beta 8 in Cubase 7 Mac, 32-bit, and the CPU has increased for me about, oh, I'd say, 1000%. My CPU meter was suddenly maxed out, and Feedback Compressor was the culprit. Not sure if anyone else is getting this.

Did you down load it a few days ago?
Click on the Info (I) button and make sure it doesn't describe the version you are using as beta 8 DEBUG.

That version was posted by mistake first up and indeed resulted in CPU load increase.

Proper version now available for down load.

good luck.

Delfinoverde · Post by **Delfinoverde** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:12 am

BETA version 8 still doesn't work on Leopard 10.5.8!

Beatworld · Post by **Beatworld** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:06 am

Delfinoverde wrote:BETA version 8 still doesn't work on Leopard 10.5.8!

Could be time for a new Cat

FabienTDR · Post by **FabienTDR** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:40 am

Beatworld wrote:
bduffy wrote:So I just tried out beta 8 in Cubase 7 Mac, 32-bit, and the CPU has increased for me about, oh, I'd say, 1000%. My CPU meter was suddenly maxed out, and Feedback Compressor was the culprit. Not sure if anyone else is getting this.
Did you down load it a few days ago?
Click on the Info (I) button and make sure it doesn't describe the version you are using as beta 8 DEBUG.

That version was posted by mistake first up and indeed resulted in CPU load increase.

Proper version now available for down load.

good luck.

bduffy, was this the cause?

Delfinoverde wrote:BETA version 8 still doesn't work on Leopard 10.5.8! Crying or Very sad

Yes. Sadly, apple's "clever" (vicious?) marketing politics aren't about backward compatibility. I tried several tricks in the last weeks (install old leopard via bootcamp) and it seems that I need to buy an outdated mac with an outdated OS version, just to build software that runs on these operating systems. I asked at the apple store and gravis, both said they aren't allowed to sell them anymore! My mac mini refuses to run leopard via bootcamp (looks like an artificial "lock"). Of course, it was a crack, I had no other choice (however, it seem impossible to install a legit version as well).

I give up. Apple surely isn't interested in your specific case (I am, but I can't help). "think different" they say, maybe Windows this time?

the_duckchild · Post by **the_duckchild** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:51 pm

can't wait to play with this... I have one quick Q;

in the manual, should the sentence "Dry Mix and Out Gain form a 2 channel mixer. Dry mix is not a 0-100% Dry/Wet control."

read "Dry Mix and Makeup Gain" rather than "Dry Mix and Out Gain"?
(I should probably have waited and just checked, but it just jumped out at me as not making sense with the following sentence "Out Gain controls the output of the compressor without affecting the balance between compressed and dry mix signals".)

FabienTDR · Post by **FabienTDR** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:09 pm

the_duckchild wrote:can't wait to play with this... I have one quick Q;

in the manual, should the sentence "Dry Mix and Out Gain form a 2 channel mixer. Dry mix is not a 0-100% Dry/Wet control."

read "Dry Mix and Makeup Gain" rather than "Dry Mix and Out Gain"?
(I should probably have waited and just checked, but it just jumped out at me as not making sense with the following sentence "Out Gain controls the output of the compressor without affecting the balance between compressed and dry mix signals".)

Oh! My bad, that's a mistake. Of course, it should be:

"Dry Mix and Makeup Gain"

I'll update the manual later today, thanks!

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:47 pm

On my computer, the CPU consumption went from 1.6% to 1.5% in "precise" mode, and from 0.9% to 0.8% in "eco" mode. That is the difference between beta 5 to beta 8. This is not at all bad for a buss and mastering compressor. Hell, even for mixing.

I think if you have to sacrifice quality to make it further optimised, don't.

But if you think you can make it work even better without any sacrifices, of course some lower percentage of CPU usage is always welcome.

I wonder how would you rate JUCE in comparison to VSTGUI. It seems like graphics is working as smooth as possible since you compiled it with JUCE. Nice. And, of course, it's easier to port to other OSes. Even for Android, I can see now. Going with JUCE was a smooth move, Fabien!

Cheers!

FabienTDR · Post by **FabienTDR** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:17 pm

DuX wrote:I think if you have to sacrifice quality to make it further optimised, don't. But if you think you can make it work even better without any sacrifices, of course some lower percentage of CPU usage is always welcome.

Oh no, I won't. The Eco mode is my only sacrifice.

DuX wrote:I wonder how would you rate JUCE in comparison to VSTGUI. It seems like graphics is working as smooth as possible since you compiled it with JUCE. Nice. And, of course, it's easier to port to other OSes. Even for Android, I can see now. Going with JUCE was a smooth move, Fabien!

Oh JUCE is fantastic. It's a substantial investment for small closed source devs, especially if they release free-ware, but it's well worth the move. The possibilities are simply amazing.. ..JUCE is a major time saver for me.

In some ways (and from my limited C++ project experience), JUCE is more or less what JQuery is to Javascript. A small revolution. Of course, one can find a gazillion C++ UI and multi-plattform libs, but this was really the first written in a modern and really useful way (i.e. self-explaining and human readable). Coming from a corporate software background, I hate nothing more than unreadable "clever" hacker style code, stupid abbreviations and bad architectures. IMHO JUCE does everything right.

Delfinoverde · Post by **Delfinoverde** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:49 pm

FabienTDR wrote:Yes. Sadly, apple's "clever" (vicious?) marketing politics aren't about backward compatibility. I tried several tricks in the last weeks (install old leopard via bootcamp) and it seems that I need to buy an outdated mac with an outdated OS version, just to build software that runs on these operating systems. I asked at the apple store and gravis, both said they aren't allowed to sell them anymore! My mac mini refuses to run leopard via bootcamp (looks like an artificial "lock"). Of course, it was a crack, I had no other choice (however, it seem impossible to install a legit version as well).

I give up. Apple surely isn't interested in your specific case (I am, but I can't help). "think different" they say, maybe Windows this time?

How about using an older version of XCode?
They're all available from Apple Developer Tools page...
If that could help?

I know, Apple are real crops, profiteers!

They don't give a damn about users of older OS.

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