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Diva 2 Wishlist

Soarer
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564 posts since 19 Mar, 2004, from Copenhagen

Postby Soarer; Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:14 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

And besides the stepped arpeggiator, if the powerful analog sound can be further improved that will be my top request for Diva 2
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Urs
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Postby Urs; Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:52 pm Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Soarer wrote:And besides the stepped arpeggiator, if the powerful analog sound can be further improved that will be my top request for Diva 2

I still think Diva sounds extremely close to our reference hardware. We'll certainly do faster envelopes and wider cutoff ranges, probably in form of options.

After all we are talking about vintage analogue hardware. The difference of maximum Attack in our two Pro-Ones is something like 10 seconds vs. almost 2 minutes.

I'm slowly moving my stance on such emulations from "accuracy" to "interpretation", like we did in the Uhbie filter or the "driven" preset in Repro's filter models. I think that, given there is no "perfect" specimen of any brand of synth, I'd rather do one that sounds best within the boundaries of the underlying model. Doesn't mean it should sound "off", just means it should sound "cooked to perfection". If the result is a better sounding synth, then f accuracy.
Soarer
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Postby Soarer; Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:18 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Sounds good to me :)
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nilhartman
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Postby nilhartman; Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:59 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Urs wrote:I'm slowly moving my stance on such emulations from "accuracy" to "interpretation", like we did in the Uhbie filter or the "driven" preset in Repro's filter models. I think that, given there is no "perfect" specimen of any brand of synth, I'd rather do one that sounds best within the boundaries of the underlying model. Doesn't mean it should sound "off", just means it should sound "cooked to perfection". If the result is a better sounding synth, then f accuracy.


:party: :tu:

I for one would love to see Diva evolving into something even more unique, flexible.. and Iconoclast. I absolutely love her sound-palette and versatility, and treat her as a lovely semi-modular, that's her biggest strength IMHO. i.e. Something similar to Zebra's Perform page would be fantastic, both for sound-design and performance (would be an incredible addition to Bazille as well).
Sleepwalker
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443 posts since 27 Nov, 2003, from Oslo, Norway

Postby Sleepwalker; Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:12 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Soarer wrote:Sounds good to me :)
A BIG +1 :)
Shiek927
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Postby Shiek927; Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:15 pm Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

What about a MKS-70/JX8P/JX10P? I know you guys said you can't do a PCM synth, but those big analog synths might be something you guys could model.

Or the JX-3P. That was a sibling to the Juno with two DCO's, though it had the same filters and envelopes. Maybe it wouldn't be as difficult for you guys :).
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Urs
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Postby Urs; Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:59 pm Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Shiek927 wrote:Maybe it wouldn't be as difficult for you guys :).

I'd prefer something difficult.

To be honest, I don't see the benefit of more Roland analogue polysynths for emulations. The differences in sound are not overly big, they all share a common feature set and philosophy with either one or two oscillators. So I'd much rather go for different oscillator layouts and filter topologies. Stuff that brings something new to the table. Maybe a Buchla-inspired dual oscillator and a diode filter.
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Teksonik
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Postby Teksonik; Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:09 pm Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Urs wrote: If the result is a better sounding synth, then f accuracy.


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AnX
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Postby AnX; Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:20 pm Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Yeah, f accuracy, gimme polyphony :)
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tehlord
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7626 posts since 22 Sep, 2008, from Windsor. UK

Postby tehlord; Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:31 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

My request for Diva 2 would be don't make Diva 2 but rather keep creating bespoke individual models such as Repro 1/5

I'd happily pay for that.

Add stuff to Diva, sure.....but it really doesn't need a follow up plugin.
rosschehayeb
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Postby rosschehayeb; Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:31 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

I don't understand people's complaints about Diva not being bright enough. I don't think I've ever written a patch where I had the filter opened all the way up. If I need Diva to sound brighter, I open the filter more. It's plenty bright that way. Are a lot of you writing patches where you like the filter to be all the way opened, and it's still not bright enough for you?
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stardustmedia
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1532 posts since 12 Dec, 2012, from Switzerland

Postby stardustmedia; Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:56 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

rosschehayeb wrote:I don't understand people's complaints about Diva not being bright enough. I don't think I've ever written a patch where I had the filter opened all the way up. If I need Diva to sound brighter, I open the filter more. It's plenty bright that way. Are a lot of you writing patches where you like the filter to be all the way opened, and it's still not bright enough for you?


I think the same. But if I compare to presets in Massive or Sylenth to Diva, they "scream" like hell (which I usually don't like and I have to turn them down). On the other hand, Diva is not my first choice when going for screaming loud aggressive leads.

I guess this is just a matter of taste.
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AnX
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Postby AnX; Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:45 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

rosschehayeb wrote:I don't understand people's complaints about Diva not being bright enough. I don't think I've ever written a patch where I had the filter opened all the way up. If I need Diva to sound brighter, I open the filter more. It's plenty bright that way. Are a lot of you writing patches where you like the filter to be all the way opened, and it's still not bright enough for you?



I think its the other way round. Some ppl thought it was too bright...
brick
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Postby brick; Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:09 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

Urs wrote:
Shiek927 wrote:Maybe it wouldn't be as difficult for you guys :).

I'd prefer something difficult.

To be honest, I don't see the benefit of more Roland analogue polysynths for emulations. The differences in sound are not overly big, they all share a common feature set and philosophy with either one or two oscillators. So I'd much rather go for different oscillator layouts and filter topologies. Stuff that brings something new to the table. Maybe a Buchla-inspired dual oscillator and a diode filter.


How about something like the Steiner Parker Synthacon filter ?

One of the most chaotic , complex & raw sounding filters out there . Never heard anything close in software . If anyone could do it , U-he could.....:)
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Urs
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Postby Urs; Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:58 am Re: Diva 2 Wishlist

brick wrote:How about something like the Steiner Parker Synthacon filter ?

I've indeed been toying with a model of this. I would at one point need to have access to an original unit to verify that it's captured, I'm not sure a FrequenSteiner or a Minibrute will be sufficient.

Anyhow, there's another similar filter which I might go for, but it's a novel design. Probably more so for Zebra than for Diva.
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