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antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:53 pm

So, I'm aware that some elements of wavetable synthesis / oscillators are going to find their way into Zebra3 (at least that's how I understood the comments), but I wonder if there's possibility of a separate wavetable synth being made by U-He, with their trademark twist, ease-of-use and high-quality sound?

If not as a standalone VSTi, then maybe "just" as a Bitwig device to compete with just revealed Live 10's Wavetable

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:17 pm

I dislike wavetables that "switch" between waveforms. I like smooth transitions. This requires mathematical concepts with a few key waveforms rather than a large number of waveforms to suppress switching artefacts. And that's exactly what Zebra has done, like, forever

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:22 pm

As you've got Codex already I reckon you've got a more powerful version of Live 10's Wavetable, as I believe Ableton's veresion doesn't allow 3rd party wavetable importing (yet anyway)

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:31 pm

mcbpete wrote:As you've got Codex already I reckon you've got a more powerful version of Live 10's Wavetable, as I believe Ableton's veresion doesn't allow 3rd party wavetable importing (yet anyway)

Oh, I know! My post was a not-so-clever (and now pretty obvious) attempt to get Urs to maybe comment on the rumoured co-op with Bitwig

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:34 pm

antic604 wrote:rumoured co-op with Bitwig

Hahaha, where did you get that from?

ilmai · Post by **ilmai** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:25 pm

Urs wrote:
antic604 wrote:rumoured co-op with Bitwig
Hahaha, where did you get that from?

I've seen speculation on the forums since the Bitwig cross promotion a couple of months ago.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:13 pm

ilmai wrote:
Urs wrote:
antic604 wrote:rumoured co-op with Bitwig
Hahaha, where did you get that from?
I've seen speculation on the forums since the Bitwig cross promotion a couple of months ago.

Hah, ok. But that was our third cross promotion in two years and we're just way to busy with our own stuff to ever do something with anybody else.

knowix · Post by **knowix** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:19 pm

It is interesting that wavetable synths now seem to be the default, even for very commercial music. Who would have predicted that ten years ago?

ilmai · Post by **ilmai** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:20 pm

Urs wrote:
ilmai wrote:
Urs wrote:
antic604 wrote:rumoured co-op with Bitwig
Hahaha, where did you get that from?
I've seen speculation on the forums since the Bitwig cross promotion a couple of months ago.
Hah, ok. But that was our third cross promotion in two years and we're just way to busy with our own stuff to ever do something with anybody else.

Yeah, but you know how it is with rumors

They start from the tiniest spark and rarely go away, since they are now folklore.

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:43 pm

knowix wrote:It is interesting that wavetable synths now seem to be the default, even for very commercial music. Who would have predicted that ten years ago?

I don't see it as a "default". It's more that wavetable is being more commonly offered as a form of synthesis alongside everything else, and since subtractive has been around since the beginning, can seem to be invisible because it is the default. There are still more new subtractive synths than there are new wavetable-only synths. Don't forget that wavetable synthesis was encumbered with patents for many years, so people faced legal and technical roadblocks in implementing it.

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:27 pm

May be some classic Wavetable/Wavescanning oscillator in Diva?

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:12 am

Urs wrote:
ilmai wrote:
Urs wrote:
antic604 wrote:rumoured co-op with Bitwig
Hahaha, where did you get that from?
I've seen speculation on the forums since the Bitwig cross promotion a couple of months ago.
Hah, ok. But that was our third cross promotion in two years and we're just way to busy with our own stuff to ever do something with anybody else.

Talking about Bitwig anf U-He... is Bitwig studio is a choice of daw in U-he office?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:19 am

Elektronisch wrote:Talking about Bitwig anf U-He... is Bitwig studio is a choice of daw in U-he office?

We don't use DAWs much, but we test in every DAW. Our most used plug-in hosts are probably Savihost and AUHosting.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:15 am

Urs wrote:
ilmai wrote:
Urs wrote:
antic604 wrote:rumoured co-op with Bitwig
Hahaha, where did you get that from?
I've seen speculation on the forums since the Bitwig cross promotion a couple of months ago.
Hah, ok. But that was our third cross promotion in two years and we're just way to busy with our own stuff to ever do something with anybody else.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:46 am

antic604 wrote:
mcbpete wrote:As you've got Codex already I reckon you've got a more powerful version of Live 10's Wavetable, as I believe Ableton's veresion doesn't allow 3rd party wavetable importing (yet anyway)
Oh, I know! My post was a not-so-clever (and now pretty obvious) attempt to get Urs to maybe comment on the rumoured co-op with Bitwig

I guess Bitwig does not have the money.

Ask Ableton.

(At least they were able to pay Cytomic)

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U-He wavetable synth?