What's Wrong With Using A Dongle?
- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 581 posts since 25 Jun, 2003 from Seattle
Hi,
I keep seeing posts that say the darndest things about dongles like, 'I won't buy it if it has a dongle'.
I've got a ton of software and most of my primary apps and plugs use dongles. I've got two (iLok and Sycrosoft) plugged into the rear of my machine and I never see them.
When I buy a new tool that requires it, I use one of the existing dongles to hold the license. Though it may add an entire 15 seconds to the installation process, They don't affect my workflow or creativity.
Call me crazy but I can't see what all the fuss is about. Perhaps one of you fussers can show me what I've missed.
Thanks
I keep seeing posts that say the darndest things about dongles like, 'I won't buy it if it has a dongle'.
I've got a ton of software and most of my primary apps and plugs use dongles. I've got two (iLok and Sycrosoft) plugged into the rear of my machine and I never see them.
When I buy a new tool that requires it, I use one of the existing dongles to hold the license. Though it may add an entire 15 seconds to the installation process, They don't affect my workflow or creativity.
Call me crazy but I can't see what all the fuss is about. Perhaps one of you fussers can show me what I've missed.
Thanks
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- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
The only downside I can see is - your 2yr old gets his or her grubby little monkey-claws around it . . .
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- KVRAF
- 9453 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
People who uses a laptop seem to dislike them more than people with a desktop which is understandable.
- KVRAF
- 10291 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I've got both the iLok and the SyncroSoft dongle as well. The iLok has never given me any issues, but I've two issues with SyncroSoft. First, I bent, and nearly destroyed, the SS dongle one day a few years back when I turned my computer on its face to get to something on the back panel and forgot to remove the dongle from the front. Totally a bonehead move on my part, but it still highlights a disadvantage of dongles - they can be broken (or stolen), which can be a huge headache. Fortunately, it somehow survived being bent at a 45-degree angle, and I've since purchased a USB hub and have my dongles connected to that instead. The second issue I've had is that the SS dongle occasionally "forgets" that it has licenses on it. The first time it happened, I nearly had a f@#$ing heart attack since it has my Cubase, Nexus, and Blue licenses on it. It still happens on occasion, but a system reboot remedies it every time. I've never had any NI, Spectrasonics, Tone2, Cakewalk, etc. synths "forget" that they were authorized.
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- KVRAF
- 2017 posts since 21 Mar, 2002 from Hutchinson, Kansas
Last month, I went to pull my Cubase dongle out of the hub and it fell apart in my hand. I taped it back together and it still works, but it will need replacing.
It beats challenge/response, in my book, but I still don't like it.
It beats challenge/response, in my book, but I still don't like it.
- KVRAF
- 7399 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
I've already stated my reasoning for hating them several times. I'm *probably* going to sell my Korg Legacy Collections when I get my hands on the Synth Squad...
You are currently reading my signature.
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
As someone who switches back and forth between a desktop and a laptop computer, and also works in different studios on collaborations, the ideal copy protection scheme (apart from pure serial number protection) is the one offered by Nomad Factory:
You get one dongle licence and one additional challenge/response license.
That way I can work on my laptop with their plugins any time and don't have to worry about the dongle.
When I work in another studio I can simply take the dongle with me and will be able to work with their plugins on those projects.
I think this copy protection policy should be considered by more companies!
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- KVRian
- 1471 posts since 8 Jan, 2008
For one, they're not free (or cheap). FYI: I got the three that I have bundled with software that I bought. However, I never really examined how much they attributed to the cost of the product...assumed I got them for nothing. (Yeah, riiiiiiight.) As I'm not moving about very often, I've been lucky to keep mine in tact and in sight. However, I can certainly understand the concerns of those who travel, etc... Lose one of these buggers and your travel plans (i.e. gig) can get squashed.
From the operational standpoint, I haven't really examined how these ornaments tax the throughput. However, I don't feel a lag, so I don't bother. However, products that move to using this device (i.e. from a prior version that does not) might certainly incur a set of new problems that need to be ironed out through support and future versions.
From the operational standpoint, I haven't really examined how these ornaments tax the throughput. However, I don't feel a lag, so I don't bother. However, products that move to using this device (i.e. from a prior version that does not) might certainly incur a set of new problems that need to be ironed out through support and future versions.
I've got nothing to sell...am I on the right site?
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- KVRAF
- 10079 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
what's wrong with condoms?
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- KVRian
- 1471 posts since 8 Jan, 2008
I got one with SX; one with SL. However, one of these arrived bent. Fortunately, I don't move it much. If I did, I might incur the situation that you described...maximum drag. Who needs to spend another $25-$35 on a dongle that used to work- not to mention having to go through the license shuffle?Scot Solida wrote:Last month, I went to pull my Cubase dongle out of the hub and it fell apart in my hand. I taped it back together and it still works, but it will need replacing.
I've got nothing to sell...am I on the right site?
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- KVRian
- 1415 posts since 1 Jun, 2008
Doesnt require much thinking to understand that dongles are annoying.
They cost money and they mostly require you to get a usb hub which also cost money. Also a lot of musician like me use more then one computer, and its pretty damn annoying having to worry about remembering or managing different dongles especially if you have laptops for performance.
Basically I dont want more stuff to keep in order. I recently read about elicenser software which seems a lot more logical. So basically a dongle software you install on the computer.
They cost money and they mostly require you to get a usb hub which also cost money. Also a lot of musician like me use more then one computer, and its pretty damn annoying having to worry about remembering or managing different dongles especially if you have laptops for performance.
Basically I dont want more stuff to keep in order. I recently read about elicenser software which seems a lot more logical. So basically a dongle software you install on the computer.
- Beware the Quoth
- 33220 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Ive used it at work, where we have Right Hemisphere applications. It kept expiring licenses when it shouldnt have, got f**ked up on systems installed from disk images, and is wholly unreliable when it comes to uninstalling licenses. Bloody awful system.fridtjof wrote:I recently read about elicenser software which seems a lot more logical. So basically a dongle software you install on the computer.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 6169 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
scott, noone likes dongles, they're always a handicap. but that's just one side, imo...Scot Solida wrote:Last month, I went to pull my Cubase dongle out of the hub and it fell apart in my hand. I taped it back together and it still works, but it will need replacing.
It beats challenge/response, in my book, but I still don't like it.
fact is, that the synchrosoft dongle:
a) causes least trouble, if any
b) has not been cracked since the backdoor was closed after cubase 3. all other dongles we're and are cracked in no time ...
in summary i can understand that more and more companies are going synchrosoft.
it's simply safe. and i myself only had issues with synchrosoft in the very early times, and only for a very short time period. it's rock solid now here since years. the only thing i still don't like is that synchrosoft protected software starts up very slow ... but that's about it ...
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gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man