So true...tomtoo wrote:Good old analog times. Nobody blamed you to make a copy .
The world is strange . Now we can make (nearly) perfect copys in a wink and spread it in the world, we have laws against something that was always a dream to do.
The return of cassettes
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
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- KVRist
- 397 posts since 1 Jul, 2011
Finding your favourite track on a tape.
FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? No, Stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? no, stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, too far, RWD, wait, stop, play... oh no did it too fast, tape's been chewed.
I don't miss this at all.
FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? No, Stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? no, stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, too far, RWD, wait, stop, play... oh no did it too fast, tape's been chewed.
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- KVRAF
- 8406 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
Do you remember high-speed dubbing? Every company was promoting making copies of albums to give to your friends.
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- KVRist
- 397 posts since 1 Jul, 2011
So the gist of the article is that a company that presses master tapes to distribution media is seeing an increase in demand for cassettes, therefore cassettes are coming back?
I think another few companies may have just given up the ghost on cassettes, forcing potential clients from other countries to go to Canada to get tapes made up... that or it's a lo-fi nostalgia fad the punk scene is currently going through.
I think another few companies may have just given up the ghost on cassettes, forcing potential clients from other countries to go to Canada to get tapes made up... that or it's a lo-fi nostalgia fad the punk scene is currently going through.
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- KVRian
- 528 posts since 17 Apr, 2009 from portland oregon
It's heavy in our type of music. Punk, ambient, instrumental beats, lo-fi genres... Tapes fit the DIY ethic very closely as almost everyone can get a cheap walkman, tapes are cheap enough to release yourself.
Tapes are coming in as big labels go out. The bedroom producer can have a physical copy now.
Two local friends run http://purrtapes.bandcamp.com/ and have sold out their entire inventory of limited edition albums, another runs "Ewe of Now" recordings... lots of tape activity in the experimental/electronic/lofi scene.
Tapes are coming in as big labels go out. The bedroom producer can have a physical copy now.
Two local friends run http://purrtapes.bandcamp.com/ and have sold out their entire inventory of limited edition albums, another runs "Ewe of Now" recordings... lots of tape activity in the experimental/electronic/lofi scene.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
AFAIK, it's always been a thing in punk circles. I suspect that you're right, they are picking up the slack from other duplication services dropping out.Lode_Runner wrote:So the gist of the article is that a company that presses master tapes to distribution media is seeing an increase in demand for cassettes, therefore cassettes are coming back?
I think another few companies may have just given up the ghost on cassettes, forcing potential clients from other countries to go to Canada to get tapes made up... that or it's a lo-fi nostalgia fad the punk scene is currently going through.
Nonetheless, here's at least an interesting article that discusses some aspects of "tape" release culture.
http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2013/01/ ... stand.html
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- KVRAF
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
There is indeed a come back of the audio cassette. For me this is quite unexpected. Four months ago I put on sale on Discogs a batch of underground noise, experimental music, electronic/techno, industrial, punk cassette and sold lots of them (more than a 100 cassette have been shipped since then). Just last week, I shipped 40 audio cassettes of experimental noodling and abstract noise to a couple of customers in the USA and Europe.
Some labels put out cassette that are sold out very quickly, they are mostly releasing experimental electronica, musique concrete, ambient, etc. That kind of thing. It's to the point where I'm thinking of making a distro myself buying tapes from those labels and re-selling them at a slightly higher price when they're sold out.
Here's a couple of labels/distros that release tapes regularly:
http://www.digitalisindustries.com/music/
http://www.discriminatemusic.com/newarrivals1.php
http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/
http://www.haltapes.com/
From what I know, it's mostly experimental, ambient music/noise. The tapes that sells well are from bands and artists that are appreciated and who have a crowd following. Good examples of this is Muslimgauze, I've sold a simple preview cassette of him with three songs on it for 30$, because they are rare and the fans of buying everything from him.
That being said, the interest is really strong, but I think it's mostly a collector thing. Unlike vinyl where the interest increased over the years, because people realize that it sounds good and it becomes valuable over time unlike the other formats (CDs, mp3s, most cassettes, etc.).
Some labels put out cassette that are sold out very quickly, they are mostly releasing experimental electronica, musique concrete, ambient, etc. That kind of thing. It's to the point where I'm thinking of making a distro myself buying tapes from those labels and re-selling them at a slightly higher price when they're sold out.
Here's a couple of labels/distros that release tapes regularly:
http://www.digitalisindustries.com/music/
http://www.discriminatemusic.com/newarrivals1.php
http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/
http://www.haltapes.com/
From what I know, it's mostly experimental, ambient music/noise. The tapes that sells well are from bands and artists that are appreciated and who have a crowd following. Good examples of this is Muslimgauze, I've sold a simple preview cassette of him with three songs on it for 30$, because they are rare and the fans of buying everything from him.
That being said, the interest is really strong, but I think it's mostly a collector thing. Unlike vinyl where the interest increased over the years, because people realize that it sounds good and it becomes valuable over time unlike the other formats (CDs, mp3s, most cassettes, etc.).
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I'm missing the point here. You can have a physical copy now with a $10 CD writer. Do you mean a few hundred physical copies now? Or do you mean that they can have a physical copy of someone else's productions "now."quayquay17 wrote:It's heavy in our type of music. Punk, ambient, instrumental beats, lo-fi genres... Tapes fit the DIY ethic very closely as almost everyone can get a cheap walkman, tapes are cheap enough to release yourself.
Tapes are coming in as big labels go out. The bedroom producer can have a physical copy now.
It's interesting that the physical copy, and the cache of "having the tape" re-injects the notion of scarcity into the sales process. To a large extent, this is one of the things that drove DJ culture before digital DJing took off. You couldn't get the great records unless you were at the right place at the right time and that often had something to do with who you were or who you knew. The rest of us got the leftovers.Two local friends run http://purrtapes.bandcamp.com/ and have sold out their entire inventory of limited edition albums, another runs "Ewe of Now" recordings... lots of tape activity in the experimental/electronic/lofi scene.
The "better sound" crowd does have some point, a good tape sounds better than a really bad MP3.
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- KVRAF
- 6804 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
Back in the 80's My band did a lot of gigging when we would go shopping for work Bar owners/managers would always demand cassettes. Even after the advent of vhs and cd. Fans would also buy cassettes over albums and later cd's... Mostly portability.
I used to offer reel to reel demo's for studio's looking to higher session guitarists. They too switched to cassettes for ease of use.
There was this "Producers Tape Service" in my town where they would stamp out 500 copies of cassettes for reasonable prices.
As well I was the first guy on my block with a four track cassette recorder. I'd get 50 blank 30 minute cassettes for something like 25 dollars from Producers tape service. It was nice because I could record one song per cassette and so didn't have to deal with all that ff/rw.
In the late 90's i was working at a restaraunt and in the kitchen we had the kitchen radio. Everyone would bring their own music in to listen to. Oddly in copied cassette format. The reason being CD's were expensive and a kitchen can be a hostile environment for CD's.
I used to offer reel to reel demo's for studio's looking to higher session guitarists. They too switched to cassettes for ease of use.
There was this "Producers Tape Service" in my town where they would stamp out 500 copies of cassettes for reasonable prices.
As well I was the first guy on my block with a four track cassette recorder. I'd get 50 blank 30 minute cassettes for something like 25 dollars from Producers tape service. It was nice because I could record one song per cassette and so didn't have to deal with all that ff/rw.
In the late 90's i was working at a restaraunt and in the kitchen we had the kitchen radio. Everyone would bring their own music in to listen to. Oddly in copied cassette format. The reason being CD's were expensive and a kitchen can be a hostile environment for CD's.
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- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
I find tapes highly unpractical, this is obviously targeted to homeboys-consuming-audio-purist.
I listen to music in the Car (No cassette player), on the way to and back from work, in between, on the weekends (No Walkman). I wouldn't like to carry around 130 tapes.
Nothing wrong to use it as a tape machine for production instead
I listen to music in the Car (No cassette player), on the way to and back from work, in between, on the weekends (No Walkman). I wouldn't like to carry around 130 tapes.
Nothing wrong to use it as a tape machine for production instead
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
If you read the article that I linked, you'll get why that's not right. These tapes frequently come with a download code so that the buyer can get the tracks in mp3 form and many are used. The cassette becomes more of a tangible expression in and of itself and something of a token that represents the limited availability.dalor wrote:I find tapes highly unpractical, this is obviously targeted to homeboys-consuming-audio-purist.
I listen to music in the Car (No cassette player), on the way to and back from work, in between, on the weekends (No Walkman). I wouldn't like to carry around 130 tapes.
Nothing wrong to use it as a tape machine for production instead
The OPs linked article is really a bit of bullshit, I don't think that MOST people are in it for the sound, it's more about the culture.
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
Lode_Runner wrote:Finding your favourite track on a tape.
FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? No, Stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? no, stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, too far, RWD, wait, stop, play... oh no did it too fast, tape's been chewed.
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- KVRist
- 152 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from Taylorsville, KY
tomtoo wrote:No wonder couse this is not a C64 Datasette!tony tony chopper wrote:I so miss waiting for 5min in front of a computer only to get an error, or worse, a shitty game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvChkOHgDIo
THATS THE REAL THING !
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- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
This wasn't just inconvenient, this even has led to some serious car accidents because people were too distracted...Lode_Runner wrote:Finding your favourite track on a tape.
FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? No, Stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, are we there yet? no, stop, FWD, wait, wait, wait, Stop, Play, too far, RWD, wait, stop, play... oh no did it too fast, tape's been chewed.
