It didn't illustrate anything to me.It was a simple example intended to illustrate a point.
I think you're bullshitting, "most people" notwithstanding.
It didn't illustrate anything to me.It was a simple example intended to illustrate a point.
That's some shrine to yourself you're building online. Is your middle name Ozymandias by any chance?jancivil wrote:That's such complete sophistry, isn't it? I can tell what's happening in Wagner inside of two minutes...Besides, when I picked up the score for John Adams' Nixon In China in the library I said to myself 'This is some boring shit, Jim'.
Which tracks? So you're not defending something which for all intents and purposes is the same thing as what you are defending.ZenPunkHippy wrote: These individual tracks are always judged out of context by people who are more comfortable listening to self-contained (pop) songs that have a clear start, middle, and end. Dance music isn't like that.
What is bothering you about these actual statements? I would have to look that up. I guess you're more educated than I am, I really should know who I'm dealing with, isn't it. I could tell you something about Wagner's advancement of harmonic vocabulary through a couple of bars, 'the Tristan chord', if that's worse for you.Gamma-UT wrote:That's some shrine to yourself you're building online. Is your middle name Ozymandias by any chance?jancivil wrote:That's such complete sophistry, isn't it? I can tell what's happening in Wagner inside of two minutes...Besides, when I picked up the score for John Adams' Nixon In China in the library I said to myself 'This is some boring shit, Jim'.
Analogy time: would you judge e.g. Wagner's Ring by a 2 minute snippet? We don't do that, because the 2 minute snippet is not really representative of the full composition.
Wagner is, though:...a clear start, middle, and end. Dance music isn't like that.
HAHAHATricky-Loops wrote:... a construction site?
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It's all about the kick and bass nowadays, as loud as possible. I always see threads here like "How can I make my kick louder and bigger and phatter?" Does anyone still know what a snare is at all? I've rarely seen any threads with "How do I make a good sounding clap, guiro, shaker, rain stick or conga etc.?"
The only important elements seem to be the bass and the kick...
Whenever I listen to more than 10 modern EDM songs, I even get headache from these permanent kicks. I want to make modern dance music, too, but I cannot stand these 4-to-the-floor speaker-shaking, knocking plastic kicks...
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Here you go ... if you can stand to check out this video for a few minutes (turn the sound down if it's annoying) you'll see something that is the polar opposite of the video you posted earlier (Amanda Shankar - which is great music, btw).jancivil wrote:The sound of it bugs people. The sound is what it is out of being kind of amusical. I said 'conformist behavior' and you want to talk about my lack of understanding of its point. Why bother? Why are you bothered by my views in order to try this out on me?
Nice straw man bashing.ZenPunkHippy wrote:The people in this video are actually out there, living life and interacting with others. That's the point. It's far better for "our" community than sitting in the rarified atmosphere of an exclusive win cellar, stroking beards, and telling people off for breathing too loud!
jancivil wrote:My Gnossiennes 1 def has suitable SUBS for da clubs, too
Great record!Sendy wrote:This is what I call dance music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbRJHighMN8
See, it's not clobbering me over the head with a sign that says "epic" until I bleed, it's like a vast rhythmic ocean, inviting your body to swim and dive into it's depths. It's repetetive, but it's repetition becomes hypnotic and shifting, rather than tedious and annoying.
That, to me, is what defines good dance music. But then I tend to (a) dance to music that people say is too hard to dance to (how can it be too hard when there's no faliure condition? it's not a game!) and (b) not really care if I look silly when I dance. What can I say, I was brought up a raver
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