Nobody appreciates small time electronic music makers/electronic musician for most is a lonely life

[Naer]

You'd get tons more respect with mediocre guitar playing is seems. Maybe we're ahead of our time?

[tehlord]

Maybe it's because learning a guitar takes time and dedication and making electronic music is relatively easy.

[4damind]

It depends of the music. Listeners are not stupid and hearing the difference between an artist and copy & paste musician.
Playing an instrument get's more respect because people know the time and learning curve behind this.

[Tricky-Loops]

Maybe it's because learning a guitar takes time and dedication and making electronic music is relatively easy.

Learning to make good electronic music takes as much time as learning to play guitar professionally. That's why I don't play guitar because I don't have time to learn it. (I'd rather improve my keyboard or piano playing.)

But there are indeed mainly guitar players at KVR...

[mcnelson]

It depends of the music. Listeners are not stupid and hearing the difference between an artist and copy & paste musician.

Garrix.

[tehlord]

Maybe it's because learning a guitar takes time and dedication and making electronic music is relatively easy.

Learning to make good electronic music takes as much time as learning to play guitar professionally. That's why I don't play guitar because I don't have time to learn it. (I'd rather improve my keyboard or piano playing.)

But there are indeed mainly guitar players at KVR...

Learning to be a mediocre guitarist takes a couple of years.

Learning to be a mediocre electronic musician is a couple of weeks.

[Frantz]

Learning to be a mediocre guitarist takes a couple of years.

Learning to be a mediocre electronic musician is a couple of weeks.

I learned Dub Turbo in a couple of minutes.

[Doug1978]

You'd get tons more respect with mediocre guitar playing is seems. Maybe we're ahead of our time?
Nobody appreciates small time electronic music makers

Don't worry: your friends and family appreciate you (perhaps).

To be serious - what you going to do about it?
How you going to become a big time electronic music maker?

The market is flooded. Everyone and her dog can stick some phat choons out over the 'net.

Do you want to make music for money, or as a hobby? If it's the former. you'll have to get up to the same level as the leading electronic music artists and producers.
And you'll have to find a way of standing out from the crowd too.

All of which you've probably heard before.
But there it is again.

Though, I'm not convinced it's any easier for guitar players etc.
Mediocrity is mediocrity, whatever the instrument.

[Robmobius]

Maybe it's because learning a guitar takes time and dedication and making electronic music is relatively easy.

It depends on what standard you are holding the electronic music too.

I mean it's simple enough to grab a guitar and bash out a few chords. Early Punk demonstrated just how easy it was. American punk is huge, but I would consider most of it to be 'pop punk'. But the songs are still simple enough.

While it's easy enough to get an electronic set up going in your bedroom. To get really good, takes years. But the standard I'm talking about here would be 90's Darkside Drum and Bass. Which is considered by many to be the apex electronic music production.

[ZenPunkHippy]

Learning to be a mediocre guitarist takes a couple of years.

Learning to be a mediocre electronic musician is a couple of weeks.

This.

And, the mediocre guitarist could go form e.g. a reasonable punk band* that's listenable / fun / makes a statement.

Contrast with the 2-weeks-young bedroom producer, who has ... well, not much ...

*edit: I mean a real punk band like the old days (Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat), not that hyper produced modern shite

[Robmobius]

Maybe it's because learning a guitar takes time and dedication and making electronic music is relatively easy.

It depends on what standard you are holding the electronic music too.

I mean it's simple enough to grab a guitar and bash out a few chords. Early Punk demonstrated just how easy it was. American punk is huge, but I would consider most of it to be 'pop punk'. But the songs are still simple enough. And those bland artists are making lots of doh.

While it's easy enough to get an electronic set up going in your bedroom. To get really really good, takes years. But the standard I'm talking about here would be 90's Darkside Drum and Bass. Which is considered by many to be the apex electronic music production.

There are plenty of big (that started out small) time electronic bods around too. So I don't fully adhere to the op's original statement either.

[tehlord]

Maybe it's because learning a guitar takes time and dedication and making electronic music is relatively easy.

It depends on what standard you are holding the electronic music too.

I mean it's simple enough to grab a guitar and bash out a few chords. Early Punk demonstrated just how easy it was. American punk is huge, but I would consider most of it to be 'pop punk'. But the songs are still simple enough.

While it's easy enough to get an electronic set up going in your bedroom. To get really good, takes years. But the standard I'm talking about here would be 90's Darkside Drum and Bass. Which is considered by many to be the apex electronic music production.

Being an electronic musician requires absolutely no prior skill. There is no technique as such, no muscle memory that you HAVE to take time to learn. You can simply click away with a mouse and theoretically get 'ok' with trial and error.

Learning to be a musician that can actually play an instrument is not even remotely comparable.

Learning to become good at both takes a fairly equal amount of time however.

[Gamma-UT]

*edit: I mean a real punk band like the old days (Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat), not that hyper produced modern shite

Get off my lawn! Doggone kids and their digity audial workimistations and Line6 Podicles.

[arkmabat]

You'd get tons more respect with mediocre guitar playing is seems. Maybe we're ahead of our time?
Nobody appreciates small time electronic music makers

Don't worry: your friends and family appreciate you (perhaps).

To be serious - what you going to do about it?
How you going to become a big time electronic music maker?

The market is flooded. Everyone and her dog can stick some phat choons out over the 'net.

Do you want to make music for money, or as a hobby? If it's the former. you'll have to get up to the same level as the leading electronic music artists and producers.
And you'll have to find a way of standing out from the crowd too.

All of which you've probably heard before.
But there it is again.

Though, I'm not convinced it's any easier for guitar players etc.
Mediocrity is mediocrity, whatever the instrument.

Orson Scott Card talks about how writing an original storyline is next to impossible. His trick is to put new life into an old storyline, from his own experiences and such. I'm paraphrasing badly. Only like $6 used on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/158297103 ... ot_redir=1

[Robmobius]

*edit: I mean a real punk band like the old days (Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat), not that hyper produced modern shite

Ha ha... Agreed. I can't stand that modern puss. It's 'pop rock' disguised as punk music.