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Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:07 am

I've a Library (from Kontakt Factory, Coral) which, when I move a knob on the main interface PV, change simultaneously 9 knobs inside the InsertGroupFX (in my case, the 9 knobs of an EQ 3 bands).

Is there a way to record to my DAW those 9 modulations?
Tried in FL to link CC to each parameter, enable Record automation, but moving the knob, DAW doesn't catch the movements.

Is there any way?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:32 am

Did you try assigning that scripted knob to a host automation slot? Check the Auto>Host Automation tab in the left side browser.

In order for linking CC to each parameter to work, you first need to MIDI learn the control(s) you want to control via MIDI CC...

Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:39 am

EvilDragon wrote:Did you try assigning that scripted knob to a host automation slot? Check the Auto>Host Automation tab in the left side browser.

Yes, is an Automation Clip inside my DAW that change the scripted knob.
And visually on Kontakt I see the 9 knob moving during the automation clip.

Here's a video example (Fruity X/Y Controller is linked to scripted SOUND KNOB inside Kontakt PW):
http://www.fastswf.com/DbnlBnM

But I need to record each movement of those 9 knobs.

How can I do it?

Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:59 am

@EvilDragon: no way so? Kontakt won't publish those internal movement to DAW?
How can I catch for each knob the envelope?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:17 am

I'm not sure how it is supposed to be done in FLS, perhaps somebody else can chime in. I know that in Reaper and Studio One it works just fine...

Did you check this out? http://www.image-line.com/support/FLHel ... mation.htm

Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:21 am

EvilDragon wrote:I'm not sure how it is supposed to be done in FLS, perhaps somebody else can chime in. I know that in Reaper and Studio One it works just fine...

Can you record them and show to me the automations of each knob? Then I'll "redraw" in FL...
A screenshoot would be enough

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:27 am

There's nothing really to it - I set the track automation mode to Write and while playback or record is happening just wiggle the knobs on the GUI, movements get recorded. Easy.

Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:29 am

EvilDragon wrote:There's nothing really to it - I set the track automation mode to Write and while playback or record is happening just wiggle the knobs on the GUI, movements get recorded. Easy.

Do you mean movements of the 9 knobs right? Well, if they are recorded, each of them get an automation.

Can you show to me those automations?

p.s. I don't mean the movement of the SOUND (single) knob, that's easy to automate and record on my DAW.
I want the 9 distinct automations of EQ 3 band controls:

Freq 1
Freq 2
Freq 3
Bandw 1
Bandw 2
Bandw 3
Gain 1
Gain 2
Gain 3

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:43 am

Not sure I follow. Just assign each control to a different host automation slot, then?

Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:53 am

EvilDragon wrote:Not sure I follow. Just assign each control to a different host automation slot, then?

Yes, but I want those automations linked to the SOUND map.

What I want is to record the walk of each knob when I move the SOUND knob.
Did you see the video I've posted? Moving gradually and linearly the SOUND knob, each knob of EQ react with a different "curve".

I need to replicate those curve in FL automation:

Immagine.png

Is it more clear now?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:04 am

Oh I see it now. Hmmm. Seems that Kontakt doesn't publish automation values when an internal parameter has been changed by a scripted control. Nothing can be done about it, sorry.

Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:16 am

EvilDragon wrote:Oh I see it now. Hmmm. Seems that Kontakt doesn't publish automation values when an internal parameter has been changed by a scripted control. Nothing can be done about it, sorry.

As I suspected.

But there is not way from the script to catch the "values" more or less? Just to see the curve of each parameter...

Zombie Queen · Post by **Zombie Queen** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:28 am

Nowhk wrote:But there is not way from the script to catch the "values" more or less?

If you find the place where the value is being set, you can add set_controller command, which will send a CC to outside world.

Nowhk · Post by **Nowhk** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:43 am

Zombie Queen wrote:
Nowhk wrote:But there is not way from the script to catch the "values" more or less?
If you find the place where the value is being set, you can add set_controller command, which will send a CC to outside world.

I've no idea how Kontakt script works

Can you help me more further? Did you have the Coral factory library?

Zombie Queen · Post by **Zombie Queen** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:07 am

In first script tab "Drumkit" find

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on ui_control ($sound_voicing)

This is callback which handles "sound" knob. Below find the line

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_set_engine_par(%engine_par[$a_eq],$helper_eq...

This is where eq is being automated. Below that line add new line:

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set_controller(20+$a_eq,$helper_eq /7813)

It will mirror automation to CC20 and following eight controllers.

Kontakt - Record internal scripting automations?