[SOLVED] Have you tried with Bitwig 2.x ?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3645 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Here the latest Zyn will not load in Bitwig. For all .so files of 3.0.2 Bitwig reports that it tried to laod but each returned a non zero error code.
Anyone using Zyn in Bitwig under Linux ?
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Anyone using Zyn in Bitwig under Linux ?
EDIT: Added [SOLVED] to the subject line.
Last edited by mevla on Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 21 Oct, 2008 from USA
One user has it running in bitwig without an issue:mevla wrote:Here the latest Zyn will not load in Bitwig. For all .so files of 3.0.2 Bitwig reports that it tried to laod but each returned a non zero error code.
Anyone using Zyn in Bitwig under Linux ?
https://github.com/zynaddsubfx/zyn-fusi ... -317150787
Perhaps you're missing one or more of the linux dependencies listed in the README.
One of the developers on the ZynAddSubFX open source synth
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
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- KVRian
- 631 posts since 22 Nov, 2006
Another Bitwig user here, Windows/PC. Doesn't work well at all. Copied over the new 3.0.2. Don't have any presets anymore. And when I try to close the GUI, it locks up. Bitwig lets the VST crash in a container so that the program doesn't crash. But, basically it's hosed in Bitwig.
Todd
Todd
https://www.reverbnation.com/toddsilva
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3645 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
I checked the dependencies listed in the README.txt file and installed. Now the window frame comes up but inside of it is only black. Bitwig still has problems with the following return an error code:
../zyn-fusion/libzest.so
../zyn-fusion/ZynAddSubFx.lv2/ZynAddSubFx.so
../zyn-fusion/ZynAddSubFx.lv2/ZynAddSubFx_ui.so
Is Zyn a VST plugin at all ?
Here's what's installed that relates to the 3.0.2 README.txt file:
ii liblo7:amd64 0.28-5
Lightweight OSC library
ii libzadc1 4.0.12-0ubuntu3
accelerated libz implementation (Accelerated Data Compression/ADC)
ii libfftw3-double3:amd64 3.3.4-2ubuntu1
Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms - Double precision
ii libfftw3-single3:amd64 3.3.4-2ubuntu1
Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms - Single precision
ii libmxml1:amd64 2.9-0ubuntu2
small XML parsing library (runtime)
Of course, there's jackd installed for Bitwig and Mixbus 32C.
I'm not sure about libz. There are quite a few packages starting with 'libz' and seemingly did not find one that's actually 'libz' and nothing else. Should there be ?
The installation consisted of simply untarring the 3.0.2 archive in the VST path. Bitwig shows an entry that's called zyn-fusion and in it is the plugin called ZynAddSubFX. Starting it shows a window frame filled in black. The Bitwig device shows knobs for Slot 1 to Slot 16. The MIDI keyboard can play the default sound.
../zyn-fusion/libzest.so
../zyn-fusion/ZynAddSubFx.lv2/ZynAddSubFx.so
../zyn-fusion/ZynAddSubFx.lv2/ZynAddSubFx_ui.so
Is Zyn a VST plugin at all ?
Here's what's installed that relates to the 3.0.2 README.txt file:
ii liblo7:amd64 0.28-5
Lightweight OSC library
ii libzadc1 4.0.12-0ubuntu3
accelerated libz implementation (Accelerated Data Compression/ADC)
ii libfftw3-double3:amd64 3.3.4-2ubuntu1
Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms - Double precision
ii libfftw3-single3:amd64 3.3.4-2ubuntu1
Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms - Single precision
ii libmxml1:amd64 2.9-0ubuntu2
small XML parsing library (runtime)
Of course, there's jackd installed for Bitwig and Mixbus 32C.
I'm not sure about libz. There are quite a few packages starting with 'libz' and seemingly did not find one that's actually 'libz' and nothing else. Should there be ?
The installation consisted of simply untarring the 3.0.2 archive in the VST path. Bitwig shows an entry that's called zyn-fusion and in it is the plugin called ZynAddSubFX. Starting it shows a window frame filled in black. The Bitwig device shows knobs for Slot 1 to Slot 16. The MIDI keyboard can play the default sound.
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 21 Oct, 2008 from USA
None of the files that you list are the VST version. The vst shared lib in the linux tarball is 'zyn-fusion/ZynAddSubFX.so'Is Zyn a VST plugin at all ?
Ubuntu (and likely debian) name the library 'zlib1g' for some odd reason.I'm not sure about libz. There are quite a few packages starting with 'libz' and seemingly did not find one that's actually 'libz' and nothing else. Should there be ?
In theory that should be sufficient, but the standard installation procedure is to install the contents of the zyn-fusion folder to /opt/zyn-fusion/ . It sounds like the UI starts to run, but cannot find the needed resource files (like libzest.so) within its search path.The installation consisted of simply untarring the 3.0.2 archive in the VST path. Bitwig shows an entry that's called zyn-fusion and in it is the plugin called ZynAddSubFX. Starting it shows a window frame filled in black. The Bitwig device shows knobs for Slot 1 to Slot 16. The MIDI keyboard can play the default sound.
One of the developers on the ZynAddSubFX open source synth
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
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- KVRian
- 631 posts since 22 Nov, 2006
Mark, as mentioned above, I've run into two issues with 3.0.2. Can you advise? Windows 10. Bitwig 2.1.3.sagetone wrote:Another Bitwig user here, Windows/PC. Doesn't work well at all. Copied over the new 3.0.2. Don't have any presets anymore. And when I try to close the GUI, it locks up. Bitwig lets the VST crash in a container so that the program doesn't crash. But, basically it's hosed in Bitwig.
No presets.
Zyn and Bitwig both lock upon attempting to close the Zyn VST GUI.
Thank you,
Todd
https://www.reverbnation.com/toddsilva
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 21 Oct, 2008 from USA
To the best of my knowledge I've patched both of those up within the past 2-3 hours. There should be another build out today/tomorrow to confirm. see the AJYoung thread for more details if you're interested..sagetone wrote:No presets.
Zyn and Bitwig both lock upon attempting to close the Zyn VST GUI.
--Mark
One of the developers on the ZynAddSubFX open source synth
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
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- KVRian
- 631 posts since 22 Nov, 2006
Thanks Mark! I hadn't seen the AJYoung thread, very helpful. And I'll keep an eye out for the new build.
https://www.reverbnation.com/toddsilva
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3645 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
The window is still black, no GUI. OTOH, the stand-alone executable works fine, with the GUI. But inside Bitwig, nope.
I still have to try in /opt/. It is currently in ~/vst/zyn-fusion/
This is because the whole directory was given as a path to Bitwig. So Bitwig tries to load all .so files. I removed the lv2 subdirectories.fundamental wrote: None of the files that you list are the VST version. The vst shared lib in the linux tarball is 'zyn-fusion/ZynAddSubFX.so'
This is installed.fundamental wrote: Ubuntu (and likely debian) name the library 'zlib1g' for some odd reason.
I presume it will identify the place where it lives and look around the same directory to start with. Or is the /opt/ hardcoded ?fundamental wrote:In theory that should be sufficient, but the standard installation procedure is to install the contents of the zyn-fusion folder to /opt/zyn-fusion/ . It sounds like the UI starts to run, but cannot find the needed resource files (like libzest.so) within its search path.
I still have to try in /opt/. It is currently in ~/vst/zyn-fusion/
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 21 Oct, 2008 from USA
It does try to look in the same directory, but if that method fail it generally falls back to trying in /opt/zyn-fusion. It would be sufficient to add a symbolic link to at least eliminate this possibility. (e.g. via 'sudo ln -s /home/YOURUSERNAME/vst/zyn-fusion/ /opt/zyn-fusion').I presume it will identify the place where it lives and look around the same directory to start with. Or is the /opt/ hardcoded ?
One of the developers on the ZynAddSubFX open source synth
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3645 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
It looks like there's not much of a choice than to have the files in /opt/. So there's now a GUI all right, with the zyn archive untarred fully in /opt/ and a link made as such:
But there are no banks. Naturally, the standalone version, when executed from /opt/zyn-fusion/zynaddsubfx has all the banks.
This used to work very well in Bitwig 1.x. This is actually why I bought Zyn, because it worked right from the install, and made a little demo that I posted here some time ago. But now with Bitwig 2.x and a newer Linux Mint, the problems described here are found.
What is the mechanism for Zyn to find out about the banks ?
https://soundcloud.com/nominal6/zynjam
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% cd ~/vst
% ll z*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mevla mevla 15 Jul 26 19:44 zyn-fusion -> /opt/zyn-fusion/
This used to work very well in Bitwig 1.x. This is actually why I bought Zyn, because it worked right from the install, and made a little demo that I posted here some time ago. But now with Bitwig 2.x and a newer Linux Mint, the problems described here are found.
What is the mechanism for Zyn to find out about the banks ?
https://soundcloud.com/nominal6/zynjam
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 21 Oct, 2008 from USA
The windows VST uses some additional search paths based upon the location of the VST library, but I don't have that setup for Linux. The install script that comes with zyn-fusion auto-installs the banks to '/usr/share/zynaddsubfx/banks'. Under the hood there's bank search paths which can be user defined, but I haven't rebuilt the UI into zyn-fusion at the time of writing.
One of the developers on the ZynAddSubFX open source synth
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3645 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
By copying the banks into the /usr/share/... location you mentioned makes them findable by Zyn. So now everything is on track. All works.
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- KVRian
- 631 posts since 22 Nov, 2006
Hi Mark, I downloaded the latest build, and all is working now w.r.t. presets showing in browser and fixed the close the GUI freeze. Thanks, it's running great now!!!
https://www.reverbnation.com/toddsilva
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G, i7 5820K with 32G DDR4, networked using AudioGridder, Bitwig, NI, U-he, and Arturia soft synths to name a few
Eurorack system https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/432465
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3645 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
From what went on, I really looks like that there are encoded paths. All plugins physically reside on a disk called B3 in subdir /Plugins/ with symlinks in ~/vst/ except Zyn who needs files in /opt/ and in /usr/share/zynaddsubfx/banks/. While not a priority, it would be nice eventually to be able to have the files all at the same location, for easy backup purposes and file management.
BTW, the 'bass1' sound is quite excellent. Smooth, 'organic', a perfect natural bass sound to reach for when doing sketches and improvs.
Now I should get into the videos tutorials by Tobiasz Karoń on youtube to start fiddling with the extensive synthesis aspects, the automation of macros and, in Bitwig, the modulation of the macros.
Cheers.
BTW, the 'bass1' sound is quite excellent. Smooth, 'organic', a perfect natural bass sound to reach for when doing sketches and improvs.
Now I should get into the videos tutorials by Tobiasz Karoń on youtube to start fiddling with the extensive synthesis aspects, the automation of macros and, in Bitwig, the modulation of the macros.
Cheers.