Redline Monitor - how does it work?
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- KVRAF
- 3639 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from beach side australia
try the demo.. its good for a couple of months!
- KVRAF
- 7892 posts since 12 Feb, 2006 from Helsinki, Finland
It works in FL8, yes. The version I tried had some bug (it did some memory corruptions a few times and failed to load at some point) but if those have been fixed, I don't think there's any problem specific to FL.BASSDRIVE wrote:I use FL Studio 8 and have Sony MDR-V600 headphones. Will it work properly with my host and sound good in my cans?
Whether it sounds good, you'll have to try yourself, and see if you like it. I got a pair of Sennheiser HD595 here that I tested it with, and it did localize the channels (as far as my ears are concerned) more or less where one would expect. I personally didn't like what it did with the stereo image when fed with something more fancy than pan-potted mono, and I also didn't really appreciate what happened to my bass (I kinda prefer to hear the pool of mud so I can attempt to do something about it) but I can see why someone would like it, and I admit that it sounds more natural than regular headphones (maybe I'm just too used to headphones and like them the way they work).
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 22 Jan, 2009 from the Netherlands
A tad late reply, but the "phase" smearing is in fact an (admittedly very jagged) EQ curve that imitates the filtering effect of one's pinnae. You'll find that the effect diminishes a lot if you give your ears some time to adjust to it. But I knew in advance that some users would prefer no mucking about with frequency content (while for others it doesn't seem radical enough in its current incarnation--you really can't please everybody ), which is why it can be disabled entirely.bmanic wrote:I just tried the demo and I'm pretty impressed! By far the most useful "makes headphones viable for mixing" tool I ever tried. Sure, it doesn't make your headphones sound like speakers, at all. The distance knob is pretty useless in my opinion and only smears the phase in a weird way.
-- dj!
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 22 Jan, 2009 from the Netherlands
Basically the plugin shd work with all "decent" headphones, but the closer to perfect its characteristics the better the final result will be. For anything except the Distance emulation frequency response isn't critical (but again, the flatter the better), but good phase response is--so no innovative features like noise cancellation or Ultrasones please! I would definitely recommend open headphones over closed types because the enclosure can create all kinds of problems by itself, but don't worry about it too much as long as it's not a $20 model.Steelhead wrote:1) What kind of headphones (close, (semi)open) is best to use with this plugin? I guess the answer will be "open" because they give that sense of "air" but I have only AKG 240S and cannot compare myself.
Personally I'm a fan of Beyerdynamic and particularly the DT880, but like I said any decent pair shd be more than fine.
-- dj!
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 22 Jan, 2009 from the Netherlands
I definitely will, though (as another poster already replied) it is not very likely that a plugin could cause a BSOD. Then again it's computers we're talking about here so... I'll be back!Zsolt wrote:Could you check compatibility with Zynewave's Podium?
-- dj!
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
dj! (112dB) wrote:DT880
£385
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 22 Jan, 2009 from the Netherlands
£185 at http://thomann.de (well okay, plus shipping to the UK)Mushy Mushy wrote:dj! (112dB) wrote:DT880
£385
-- dj!
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Wrong ones then.dj! (112dB) wrote:£185 at http://thomann.de (well okay, plus shipping to the UK)
I just found out there's three types:
http://www.dv247.com/search/0/0/Product ... g/DT880/1/
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 22 Jan, 2009 from the Netherlands
I didn't yet know about the headtracker version--cool.Mushy Mushy wrote:Wrong ones then.dj! (112dB) wrote:£185 at http://thomann.de (well okay, plus shipping to the UK)
I just found out there's three types:
http://www.dv247.com/search/0/0/Product ... g/DT880/1/
-- dj!
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
dj! (112dB) wrote:I didn't yet know about the headtracker version--cool.Mushy Mushy wrote:Wrong ones then.dj! (112dB) wrote:£185 at http://thomann.de (well okay, plus shipping to the UK)
I just found out there's three types:
http://www.dv247.com/search/0/0/Product ... g/DT880/1/
-- dj!
So out of the three in the list above which is the model you use (obviously not the headtracker version)? The cheaper or mid?
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 22 Jan, 2009 from the Netherlands
Okay, you've got me... the cheaper. That's my preferred model, besides I also have a pair of DT531 (also Beyerdynamic) and Sony HDR7506, and during testing used a DT990 and errr... (I've always been terrible at product numbers) some other make/brand that I can't seem to recall right now.
-- dj!
-- dj!
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Thats what I wanted to hear.
Beyer and DV will soon have one more DT880 sale this week then
Beyer and DV will soon have one more DT880 sale this week then
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
- KVRAF
- 10361 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
That's the problem with HRTF data. It's a general approach and doesn't work for all "head shapes". The brain works in a way that it is used to it's own head shape and thus we all have a bit positioning of our nose, ears etc that causes the information of a general dummy head to sound completely wrong. I'm glad you added the option to turn the effect off.dj! (112dB) wrote:A tad late reply, but the "phase" smearing is in fact an (admittedly very jagged) EQ curve that imitates the filtering effect of one's pinnae. You'll find that the effect diminishes a lot if you give your ears some time to adjust to it. But I knew in advance that some users would prefer no mucking about with frequency content (while for others it doesn't seem radical enough in its current incarnation--you really can't please everybody ), which is why it can be disabled entirely.bmanic wrote:I just tried the demo and I'm pretty impressed! By far the most useful "makes headphones viable for mixing" tool I ever tried. Sure, it doesn't make your headphones sound like speakers, at all. The distance knob is pretty useless in my opinion and only smears the phase in a weird way.
-- dj!
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 22 Jan, 2009 from the Netherlands
With the Distance button set to 0 (so it grays out), yes. Distance was designed to add equalization to the signal so obviously the frequency response won't be very linear with it active.Pule wrote:Freq. graph in manual measured with a central button set to zero, or?
Take care,
-- dj!