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do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:34 pm

codec_spurt wrote:Yeah, it's funny alright. I've never been able to put a Red Phatt Pro on a drum bus and not get a pumping hyped up beefy mix going. It's just instant goodness. Never fails. It is also pretty easily tweaked. I suppose when you know your way around a compressor then this makes it easy, but nothing odd or unusual here, pretty standard stuff. I love it to bits. I get the same vibe from my Focusrite Scarlett Compressor as well.

It's probably more a case of me not 'clicking' with it. I'm a bit funny with compressors... I really rate the one in VB striptool's free version - no one else seems to like it though lol!

codec_spurt wrote:As for the old version of Barricade, I am sure that is more than good enough for most people and applications. Jeroen seems to be refining his art and his science, but pretty soon the law of diminishing returns are going to come into play even for him. I love his stuff though, and I love his whole ethos.

The diminishing returns thing is an interesting aside. I tried his latest limiter - the toneboosters one - and it was almost TOO good. It seemed to make anything I tried it with super duper loud with minimal pumping. Which kinda made me nervous. I'm sure he is a very intelligent chap but does he really want to be responsible for -6 dB RMS masters becoming the norm? lol!

codec_spurt wrote:The TLS/TbT stuff by Daniel is exceptional too.

Agreed although over the years it's gradually become only the Limiter I use now.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:22 pm

IMO, TLs Pocket limiter can stand the most abuse and sound the loudest among all free limiters I have tested so far. I've been using it for years.

Shangsean · Post by **Shangsean** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:42 pm

Just gave the No6 Limiter a try and wow! Very impressed. I've been using Ozone 5, which I do really like and obviously offers a little more than the average limiter, but for pure limiting, the No6 certainly stands up very well.

clintmartin · Post by **clintmartin** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:07 am

LimiterNo.6 is one of the best Limiters period. I have Pro-L and still prefer L6.

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:36 am

Just in case anyone missed it, coz I nearly did, there's a great new skin for Limiter 6 that makes it much more usable to my old and fading eyes:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6&t=413380

I think it's an incredible piece of work. Definitely going to use it a bit more now I can see things a bit better, even though I have Elephant and Barricade and Alloy and Ozone.

The clipper section is what I'm going to play about with and experiment with a bit.

bpblog · Post by **bpblog** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:56 am

clintmartin wrote:LimiterNo.6 is one of the best Limiters period. I have Pro-L and still prefer L6.

Absolutely. In my opinion, the best free limiter out there and quite possibly in the top 3 limiters ever.

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:17 pm

Does anyone have experience of using it with just the Clipper in isolation? (Limiter 6 I am talking about)

This is why I love the GVST Clipper coz it has a graphical display like a mini version of the FabFilter plugs.
http://www.gvst.co.uk/gclip.htm

Then again there is the http://lvcaudio.com/plugins/clipshifter/ which is totally awesome. Gonna have to buy the slightly upgraded version soon. That gives you a nice interface to see what is going on too.

Don't mean to hi-jack the thread about Limiters with Clippers, but there is some over lap and until it recently clicked with me, I didn't realise that most of what I was trying to do with a Limiter, was often, in fact needed to be done with a Clipper. There is a subtle difference. Dean AKA Nekro did try to explain it to me, but it didn't sink in.

An old thread about Clippers:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6&t=335624

I suppose I could run Schope on the bus and see what is going on. It really is essential in my book to SEE what a Clipper is doing, because of its very nature, the signal it is attenuating is outside the bounds of human hearing - the brain just does not pick up on those sharp short bursts of volume, hence, how a Limiter works, counter-intuitively by reducing the dynamic range - it reduces the peaks but brings up the rest of the signal - so it sounds louder. See, I told you Clippers and Limiters were kind of connected!

AudioGuy720 · Post by **AudioGuy720** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:52 am

codec_spurt wrote:Just in case anyone missed it, coz I nearly did, there's a great new skin for Limiter 6 that makes it much more usable to my old and fading eyes:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6&t=413380

Thanks for this tip! I never liked the Limiter 6 GUI so I am going to revisit this plugin with the new look!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:24 am

At first, I really liked limiter 6. Then a couple of things happened that kinda turned me off of it.

It's quite complex. Which is nice, but sometimes it just feels like I'm tweaking more than using.....if you know what I mean. Also, I still notice a bit of a brashness that isn't bad per say, but I'm not sure if just using IK's BWL isn't just as good. But I had a weird issue in live where it added too much latency, when the before mentioned IK BWL wouldn't.

I also know that toneboosters adds latency. Doesn't really seem to be an issue in studio one though.

Anyways, not sure I'm being helpful but that's just my take.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:01 am

My thoughts exactly, too much options for a simple limiting job.

TLs Pocket Limiter firmly stands its ground against Pro-L, Ozone Maximizer and Elephant 4, and I still prefer it.

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hibidy wrote:At first, I really liked limiter 6. Then a couple of things happened that kinda turned me off of it.

It's quite complex. Which is nice, but sometimes it just feels like I'm tweaking more than using.....if you know what I mean. Also, I still notice a bit of a brashness that isn't bad per say

Spot on Hibidy, I totally agree

I've never noticed any latency issues with Barricade myself.

I don't like things that are unnecessarily complicated (I'm a simple soul) - who needs knob overload

For a usable, free and transparent limiter, the one in the free EaReckon 87 bundle (x86 & x64) is really great. The noise gate in the same bundle is not too shabby either:

http://eareckon.com/en/products/freebies.html (http://eareckon.com/en/products/freebies.html)

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:52 pm

I'll have to give barricade another shot this week. I know it's not free like the OP wants but in the last couple of weeks I've just heard too many people singing it's praises.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:47 pm

hibidy wrote:I'll have to give barricade another shot this week. I know it's not free like the OP wants but in the last couple of weeks I've just heard too many people singing it's praises.

Just tried and liked it.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:14 pm

I like Barricade - however I am also wondering about this in the same price range:

http://www.overtonedsp.co.uk/download/d ... index.html

I honestly had no idea these were so cheap - the whole bundle is just £30!

Eddie TX · Post by **Eddie TX** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:01 pm

aMUSEd wrote:I like Barricade - however I am also wondering about this in the same price range:

http://www.overtonedsp.co.uk/download/d ... index.html

I honestly had no idea these were so cheap - the whole bundle is just £30!

The OverTone plugins are a terrific value, but I don't think you'd want to use the FC70 as a brickwall limiter. It's a model of the classic Fairchild compressor. Very different tool than Barricade and the like, but great for various compression tasks.

Cheers,
Eddie

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