These drums sound viscious... How??

[velocity05]

When i heard these drums I was instantly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUh8X705Xrc

I'm pretty sure it's parallel but i've been playing around for three days and have got nowhere near it.

[whyterabbyt]

Do you mean viscous or vicious?

[zenvoxpop]

I'm not an expert, but I bet there are same samples underneath...sadly.The rest is, yeah, NY compression, an angry drummer and a good technician.

Omg, look at these ballerina shoes the guy is wearing.

[Deep Purple]

Do you mean viscous or vicious?

Maybe he's confused about why they're played with drum sticks...

[velocity05]

sorry i meant vicious lol

[do_androids_dream]

It will be very hard to say how they were achieved without either seeing the mix or knowing whether or not the original drums/samples were already sounding like they do in the final mix. There's almost certainly parallel compression going on - probably beefing up with samples too. So difficult to say. One thing though - they're very upfront so... the volume fader is going to have a lot to do with it lol! There's probably limiting on the kick and snare too. The snare has quite a lot of low mid presence (200 - 400 Hz I would say). Good luck getting there

[velocity05]

It will be very hard to say how they were achieved without either seeing the mix or knowing whether or not the original drums/samples were already sounding like they do in the final mix. There's almost certainly parallel compression going on - probably beefing up with samples too. So difficult to say. One thing though - they're very upfront so... the volume fader is going to have a lot to do with it lol! There's probably limiting on the kick and snare too. The snare has quite a lot of low mid presence (200 - 400 Hz I would say). Good luck getting there

Thank you

http://we.tl/ESJFo6M1xg
https://audioboom.com/boos/3182066-drum-test

This is where I'm at so far. Obviously it's nowhere near but can you hear anything glaringly obvious?

[Robmobius]

There's a lot of snap in that snare.

Get your hands on a transient shaper. Boost the attack and remove some of the sustain (this is done after applying some saturation).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UERl-MJuOlo

That's the one I use (the SPL) but there are cheaper ones about like Audio Schaak.

[do_androids_dream]

It will be very hard to say how they were achieved without either seeing the mix or knowing whether or not the original drums/samples were already sounding like they do in the final mix. There's almost certainly parallel compression going on - probably beefing up with samples too. So difficult to say. One thing though - they're very upfront so... the volume fader is going to have a lot to do with it lol! There's probably limiting on the kick and snare too. The snare has quite a lot of low mid presence (200 - 400 Hz I would say). Good luck getting there

Thank you

http://we.tl/ESJFo6M1xg
https://audioboom.com/boos/3182066-drum-test

This is where I'm at so far. Obviously it's nowhere near but can you hear anything glaringly obvious?

Sounding pretty good - would be able to guide you much better if they were within a mix as - I'm sure you can appreciate - it's as much about the relationship the drums have to everything else as how the drums sound in isolation. I almost never mix with the solo button engaged - it's all 'in context'. Have you built a track around these drums or are you just trying to get the sound on it's own?

[velocity05]

It will be very hard to say how they were achieved without either seeing the mix or knowing whether or not the original drums/samples were already sounding like they do in the final mix. There's almost certainly parallel compression going on - probably beefing up with samples too. So difficult to say. One thing though - they're very upfront so... the volume fader is going to have a lot to do with it lol! There's probably limiting on the kick and snare too. The snare has quite a lot of low mid presence (200 - 400 Hz I would say). Good luck getting there

Thank you

http://we.tl/ESJFo6M1xg
https://audioboom.com/boos/3182066-drum-test

This is where I'm at so far. Obviously it's nowhere near but can you hear anything glaringly obvious?

Sounding pretty good - would be able to guide you much better if they were within a mix as - I'm sure you can appreciate - it's as much about the relationship the drums have to everything else as how the drums sound in isolation. I almost never mix with the solo button engaged - it's all 'in context'. Have you built a track around these drums or are you just trying to get the sound on it's own?

Thank you, so frustrating though as I can hear I'm still miles away. I totally get that, unfortunately i'm just trying to nail the drum sound so when I go to write with my guitarist the direction is obvious and there's as little guess work as possible

[do_androids_dream]

It will be very hard to say how they were achieved without either seeing the mix or knowing whether or not the original drums/samples were already sounding like they do in the final mix. There's almost certainly parallel compression going on - probably beefing up with samples too. So difficult to say. One thing though - they're very upfront so... the volume fader is going to have a lot to do with it lol! There's probably limiting on the kick and snare too. The snare has quite a lot of low mid presence (200 - 400 Hz I would say). Good luck getting there

Thank you

http://we.tl/ESJFo6M1xg
https://audioboom.com/boos/3182066-drum-test

This is where I'm at so far. Obviously it's nowhere near but can you hear anything glaringly obvious?

Sounding pretty good - would be able to guide you much better if they were within a mix as - I'm sure you can appreciate - it's as much about the relationship the drums have to everything else as how the drums sound in isolation. I almost never mix with the solo button engaged - it's all 'in context'. Have you built a track around these drums or are you just trying to get the sound on it's own?

Thank you, so frustrating though as I can hear I'm still miles away. I totally get that, unfortunately i'm just trying to nail the drum sound so when I go to write with my guitarist the direction is obvious and there's as little guess work as possible

I would say get it as close as you can - then go ahead and write your song around it - then perfect the sound in context with everything else. You're certainly in the ballpark.

To give you a for instance... Sometimes I get handed a track to mix and they might say 'I really like the drums on x,y and z - can you get it sounding like that?' I then go and listen to the references... and realise that the drums they've given me are nowhere close at all... So I then have to bend and squeeze and push these drums into very different shapes. What I'm constantly surprised at is just how much you can manipulate one drum sound into another (I always get there in the end!). So, given that you're pretty close now - you shouldn't have too much trouble getting even closer once the rest of the track is in place.

[realmarco]

thanks for that video..I like that song

the snare drum sounds like a 70ies snare...its gated and recorded in a Dead room(very little room reverb)

[dekadenz]

What's so "vicious" about these drums? Pretty standard vintagey sounding triggered distorted samples (or quantized real drums). The snare is pretty soft and more into body than actual crack. It has lost pretty much most of the transient because of the distortion.

BFD1 or BFD2 is your friend. They're vintagey sounding drum samples already distorted to the moon and back during recording. It sounds like a LinnDrum at times. Current BFD3 isn't.

Blend them with different samples that has a little crack on it if the attack is too soft.