Update to 1.2.1:
Plugin latency reduced
Clear type fonts
Auto activate for EQs, gate and comp when changing parameter
Small GUI changes
TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 711 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007 - KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
TB-ProAudio wrote:Auto activate for EQs, gate and comp when changing parameter
Only three things stopping me buying this:
- Can't afford it
- The promise of a more fully-featured model
- Can't afford it
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 711 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 7 Apr, 2015
Thank You for this great tool.
This article is the truth. End of searching for me...
http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/cou ... rch-639472
This article is the truth. End of searching for me...
http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/cou ... rch-639472
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- KVRian
- 513 posts since 6 Mar, 2012
Yet another channel strip. How many more of them are going to be released before it is generally recognized that there's no more need for new ones? Sorry for being so open, TBProAudio, this is not meant to be offensive.
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- KVRian
- 1142 posts since 9 Jul, 2006 from Germany
Seems like a very nice little tool for "each track":
- EQ (even surgical seems to be possible)
- Comp
and
- Saturation.
What would one need more for a decent mix? I think I have to try it out as well.
BTW: The speed of feature implementation is very cool! How many new features in two weeks? Impressive!
edit:
"All licenses sold are non-transferable."
Hmm ... that's not what I wanted to read.
- EQ (even surgical seems to be possible)
- Comp
and
- Saturation.
What would one need more for a decent mix? I think I have to try it out as well.
BTW: The speed of feature implementation is very cool! How many new features in two weeks? Impressive!
edit:
"All licenses sold are non-transferable."
Hmm ... that's not what I wanted to read.
"The 'less-is-more'-guy ... he's an asshole." (Billy Decker)
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
Yes, great featureset for a quick and efficient channelstrip.MountainKing wrote:What would one need more for a decent mix? I think I have to try it out as well.
But if a more comprehensive channelstrip is planned, i may suggest considering stereo image manipulation, and two modes for the compressor ("clean" and "dirty"), as well as internal side-chaining.
Also, a switch to make the gate behave like a downward expander (sometimes, gates are too obvious).
With CS3301, I find the eq very usable, and the dyamic section works fine. I'm also liking the low cpu footprint, so i imagine i can use several instances in a project without worrying.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 711 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany
As long as things can be improved?Skorpius wrote:Yet another channel strip. How many more of them are going to be released before it is generally recognized that there's no more need for new ones?
Dont worry, we are open to any feedbackSkorpius wrote:Sorry for being so open, TBProAudio, this is not meant to be offensive.
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- KVRist
- 108 posts since 26 Mar, 2009
By the way, personally, I don't like the position of the Analog ON/OFF button.
How about this idea?
Output slider is large enough in my opinion.
How about this idea?
Output slider is large enough in my opinion.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 711 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 7 Apr, 2015
Yudaidhun wrote:By the way, personally, I don't like the position of the Analog ON/OFF button.
How about this idea?
Output slider is large enough in my opinion.
+1 Very good idea.
In the first try I didn't noticed it is a button..
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- KVRian
- 1142 posts since 9 Jul, 2006 from Germany
So, I just bought it. Very nice work!
It's a real "strip-downer" ... workflow-wise. Let's you keep "focussed". You definitely can achieve good mixes by just using this little channl strip - ok, some additional time-based FX of course (like modulation, delay and reverb).
I just made a quick mix in Logic of my latest song project and in comparison to my older attempts it ended out a lot more "open" soundwise. Nice.
Some questions:
- What would be your go-to way to check out the plugin's CPU-intensity. There's that little CPU window inside Logic but there are not percentage values or the like.
- Regarding this "visual" cpu meter in Logic it seems that using "Oversampling" doubles CPU-intensity. Can that be confirmed?
Now:
- 54 audio tracks plus some SUB and AUX channels
- about 40 instances CS-3301 channel strip most of them in oversampling mode (on individual tracks or SUBs) + 1 x VariSaturator on the main vocals
- 2 x Valhalla VVV + 2 x Stereo Delay (Logic)
- one instance of BX Digital V2, Maag EQ2 plus Elephant on the stereo-bus
- Macbook Pro 2011 Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM, El Capitan
- 1024 samples
- no external soundcard, just using the Macbook's audio device
The project runs but it has regular drop outs. Would you consider this as a normal behavior in regard of the number of plugins used?
I assume that oversampling uses a lot of CPU power. Now - some kind of feature request: Is there a way to "on-off" the oversampling mode for all instances of CS-3301 that are used in a given project? That would be great. In that manner it would be possible to use the plugins without any oversampling while mixing and then activting OS-mode when bouncing down the whole song. Of course even today it IS possible to activate and de-activate OS-mode manually but that's .... well, a process for 40 plugins.
Regards Jens
It's a real "strip-downer" ... workflow-wise. Let's you keep "focussed". You definitely can achieve good mixes by just using this little channl strip - ok, some additional time-based FX of course (like modulation, delay and reverb).
I just made a quick mix in Logic of my latest song project and in comparison to my older attempts it ended out a lot more "open" soundwise. Nice.
Some questions:
- What would be your go-to way to check out the plugin's CPU-intensity. There's that little CPU window inside Logic but there are not percentage values or the like.
- Regarding this "visual" cpu meter in Logic it seems that using "Oversampling" doubles CPU-intensity. Can that be confirmed?
Now:
- 54 audio tracks plus some SUB and AUX channels
- about 40 instances CS-3301 channel strip most of them in oversampling mode (on individual tracks or SUBs) + 1 x VariSaturator on the main vocals
- 2 x Valhalla VVV + 2 x Stereo Delay (Logic)
- one instance of BX Digital V2, Maag EQ2 plus Elephant on the stereo-bus
- Macbook Pro 2011 Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM, El Capitan
- 1024 samples
- no external soundcard, just using the Macbook's audio device
The project runs but it has regular drop outs. Would you consider this as a normal behavior in regard of the number of plugins used?
I assume that oversampling uses a lot of CPU power. Now - some kind of feature request: Is there a way to "on-off" the oversampling mode for all instances of CS-3301 that are used in a given project? That would be great. In that manner it would be possible to use the plugins without any oversampling while mixing and then activting OS-mode when bouncing down the whole song. Of course even today it IS possible to activate and de-activate OS-mode manually but that's .... well, a process for 40 plugins.
Regards Jens
"The 'less-is-more'-guy ... he's an asshole." (Billy Decker)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 711 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany
Thank you for your nice feedback!
Well, 2xoversampling uses 2xDSP code + CPU for up/downsampling LP filter. With 40 instances this could lead to drop-outs, depending on the system.
As CS-3301 OS impacts sound significantly we think you would like to have same results during mixing and off-line rendering.
In any case we will think about switching off OS globally, sure.
Well, 2xoversampling uses 2xDSP code + CPU for up/downsampling LP filter. With 40 instances this could lead to drop-outs, depending on the system.
As CS-3301 OS impacts sound significantly we think you would like to have same results during mixing and off-line rendering.
In any case we will think about switching off OS globally, sure.
