With stereo metering I mean a meter that would show levels for both channels separately.
Yes, it makes sense to be able to resize the graph, but I did feel it would be nice to be able to make the whole UI a bit smaller. The controls at the bottom for example are quite big.
Youlean's tp value falls in between the peak values shown per channel in other plugins, less than the louder channel and more than the quieter.
Youlean Loudness Meter 2 - V2.5.2 - April 25, 2022 update
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- KVRAF
- 5818 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 444 posts since 11 May, 2016 from Serbia
OK, why showing level values for channels separately is that important? Making UI bigger or smaller will come in the future....jon wrote:With stereo metering I mean a meter that would show levels for both channels separately.
Yes, it makes sense to be able to resize the graph, but I did feel it would be nice to be able to make the whole UI a bit smaller. The controls at the bottom for example are quite big.
Youlean's tp value falls in between the peak values shown per channel in other plugins, less than the louder channel and more than the quieter.
TP metering it seams to be broken. I will fix that. Thanks for the bug report!
Website: https://youlean.co/
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- KVRAF
- 10310 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Does that mean that the installer is now installing the MS Runtime library too? If so, which one? Or was it some other bug?youlean wrote:Fixed for the next update.sinkmusic wrote:Hi.
I get a runtime error (Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime library) whenever i start playback (Reaper5, Win10 64bit)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 444 posts since 11 May, 2016 from Serbia
No, this was some other bug there plugin would try to write to a memory that shouldn't...DarkStar wrote:Does that mean that the installer is now installing the MS Runtime library too? If so, which one? Or was it some other bug?youlean wrote:Fixed for the next update.sinkmusic wrote:Hi.
I get a runtime error (Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime library) whenever i start playback (Reaper5, Win10 64bit)
Website: https://youlean.co/
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- KVRAF
- 3231 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden
Just installed YLM (VST2 and AU) on MB Air, 10.9.5 and tried it in Live 9.6.2 (VST) and also in Twisted Wave 1.17.3 (AU).
My first reaction was: – I'm an idiot!
Well, I may still be, but… nothing moves in the displays. I mean – nothing at all! No moving graphics whatsoever, when I send audio through YLM. I can click the controls and select alternative settings, but no values are being shown.
Just to check myself, I downloaded the Melda Loudness Meter and was relieved no end to see the various meters and displays jumping around where I had previously put YLM.
I hope that it is something simple, because I like the layout of YLM much better than the Melda one.
/Joachim
My first reaction was: – I'm an idiot!
Well, I may still be, but… nothing moves in the displays. I mean – nothing at all! No moving graphics whatsoever, when I send audio through YLM. I can click the controls and select alternative settings, but no values are being shown.
Just to check myself, I downloaded the Melda Loudness Meter and was relieved no end to see the various meters and displays jumping around where I had previously put YLM.
I hope that it is something simple, because I like the layout of YLM much better than the Melda one.
/Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 444 posts since 11 May, 2016 from Serbia
VST2 works here in Live. Though AU crashes Live. I will investigate this... Thanks for the bug report!Spitfire31 wrote:Just installed YLM (VST2 and AU) on MB Air, 10.9.5 and tried it in Live 9.6.2 (VST) and also in Twisted Wave 1.17.3 (AU).
My first reaction was: – I'm an idiot!
Well, I may still be, but… nothing moves in the displays. I mean – nothing at all! No moving graphics whatsoever, when I send audio through YLM. I can click the controls and select alternative settings, but no values are being shown.
Just to check myself, I downloaded the Melda Loudness Meter and was relieved no end to see the various meters and displays jumping around where I had previously put YLM.
I hope that it is something simple, because I like the layout of YLM much better than the Melda one.
/Joachim
Website: https://youlean.co/
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- KVRAF
- 5818 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
I wouldn't say stereo meters are extremely important, but I find them useful and quite standard these days, they just portray more information without any drawbacks I can think of. I think it's cool to see if either channel is constantly higher than the other, for example, might be something worth adjusting.youlean wrote:OK, why showing level values for channels separately is that important? Making UI bigger or smaller will come in the future...
TP metering it seams to be broken. I will fix that. Thanks for the bug report!
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 27 Jul, 2015
I have the same problem, in FL Studio, Bitwig and Reaper (Windows 10, VST2 64bit, version 1.0.1). I also tested the 32bit version in Bitwig, and changing the sample rate to 44.1kHz instead of my usual 48k, with the same result (UI functional but nothing appears in the meters and graphs).Spitfire31 wrote:Well, I may still be, but… nothing moves in the displays. I mean – nothing at all! No moving graphics whatsoever, when I send audio through YLM. I can click the controls and select alternative settings, but no values are being shown.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 444 posts since 11 May, 2016 from Serbia
Thanks for the suggestions. I will consider adding this in future versions..jon wrote:I wouldn't say stereo meters are extremely important, but I find them useful and quite standard these days, they just portray more information without any drawbacks I can think of. I think it's cool to see if either channel is constantly higher than the other, for example, might be something worth adjusting.youlean wrote:OK, why showing level values for channels separately is that important? Making UI bigger or smaller will come in the future...
TP metering it seams to be broken. I will fix that. Thanks for the bug report!
Website: https://youlean.co/
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 444 posts since 11 May, 2016 from Serbia
Are you using MAC? Sorry for encountering bugs. I didn't imagine that plugin would be that much buggy. If I did, I wouldn't release it. Anyways, now I will make sure to fix all bugs as soon as possible!drakmaniso wrote:I have the same problem, in FL Studio, Bitwig and Reaper (Windows 10, VST2 64bit, version 1.0.1). I also tested the 32bit version in Bitwig, and changing the sample rate to 44.1kHz instead of my usual 48k, with the same result (UI functional but nothing appears in the meters and graphs).Spitfire31 wrote:Well, I may still be, but… nothing moves in the displays. I mean – nothing at all! No moving graphics whatsoever, when I send audio through YLM. I can click the controls and select alternative settings, but no values are being shown.
Website: https://youlean.co/
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- KVRian
- 927 posts since 26 Oct, 2005 from Canada City
Took me a few minutes to realize the transport in my DAW needed to be running for the meter to start recording/displaying data. Not sure if that is intended behaviour, but it might explain the people who say the meter doesn't display anything.
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- KVRAF
- 3231 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden
Good catch! So maybe I'm a half-wit after all.Dozius wrote:Took me a few minutes to realize the transport in my DAW needed to be running for the meter to start recording/displaying data. Not sure if that is intended behaviour, but it might explain the people who say the meter doesn't display anything.
Never thought of that, since the free (but somewhat crippled until bought) Melda Loudness plug doesn't require the transport to run.I've explored some more on my travel rig (Macbook Air 2013, 8GB RAM, Mac OS Mavericks 10.9.5):
Live 9.6.1:
VST works as expected (if transport runs
).AU kills Live dead during instantiation. I can send the crash log if useful.
Logic 10.2.2:
AU works as expected.
Twisted Wave 1.17.3:
VST loads but shows no activity
AU loads and shows initial values in upper left green fields but no movement and no activity in display window. If playback is stopped and resumed, the ‘green fields’ values disappear and nothing moves.
DP 7 (32 bit only):
AU works as expected.
Studio One 3:
AU and VST work as expected.
DSP Quattro 4.4 (32 bit only):
VST loads but shows no activity.
AU throws exception and will not load.
/Joachim
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If it were easy, anybody could do it!
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- KVRAF
- 3231 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden
double post…
If it were easy, anybody could do it!
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 27 Jul, 2015
Now I feel like an idiot.Dozius wrote:Took me a few minutes to realize the transport in my DAW needed to be running for the meter to start recording/displaying data. Not sure if that is intended behaviour, but it might explain the people who say the meter doesn't display anything.
Yes, for me at least, that was the problem...Maybe the meters could work even when the transport is off, this would make it obvious that the plugin is working and that some additional step is required?
Other than that, I really like the plugin! A few remarks:
- It seems there is no way to change the reference level of the relative scale? "Split" only changes the coloring...
- I don't think the values should reset when the transport loops, this makes it impossible to get the loudness of individual clips or loops;
- I love the histogram on the side of the graph! I would like to see the ML shown there too, as this help evaluating the dynamic of a track;
- Finally, for nitpicking about the UI: I think the interface would be easier to read with a bit of color coding: eg use green/red for ML, blue/purple for SL. The same colors should be used in the meters, the graphs and the values, this would make it easy to connect the various part of the interface.
