waves api2500, is there a way to turn it off with automation?
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- KVRian
- 753 posts since 2 Aug, 2013
Automate the "in" button. If you dont like the noise, disable the analog switch.
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- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
Or you can put a noise gate/ expander on the signal to mute the noise in silences. Old school style.
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
This. Easy.SeeingInMidi wrote:disable the analog switch.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
Unless the Analog switch is providing an agreeable improvement. It’s a subjective thing. Even the world class engineers have varying opinions on this.ramseysounds wrote:This. Easy.SeeingInMidi wrote:disable the analog switch.
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Agreed, but my response was in direct reply to the OP.simon.a.billington wrote:Unless the Analog switch is providing an agreeable improvement. It’s a subjective thing. Even the world class engineers have varying opinions on this.ramseysounds wrote:This. Easy.SeeingInMidi wrote:disable the analog switch.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
Yep. And it’s certainky the easiest option worth considering, providing it’s the source of their issues.ramseysounds wrote:Agreed, but my response was in direct reply to the OP.simon.a.billington wrote:Unless the Analog switch is providing an agreeable improvement. It’s a subjective thing. Even the world class engineers have varying opinions on this.ramseysounds wrote:This. Easy.SeeingInMidi wrote:disable the analog switch.
- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland
If you don't need the noise, just turn analog off.
If you need the noise, use a gate.
If then a gate doesn't work or sound good for you, automate volume.
It can be bad to turn on and off the noise. If it's only on one channel in a dense mix, you won't notice the difference. The noise level is very low. But if you have a lot of those channels = the noise is piling up and then you turn off the noise "with a click", let's say in a quite part of the song. That won't sound good.
I have automation templates for such channels. It's only copy paste and a few clicks, plus eventually dragging down the noise in certain parts of the song. That's a mixer's life. Never the same situation. You always have to decide.
If you need the noise, use a gate.
If then a gate doesn't work or sound good for you, automate volume.
It can be bad to turn on and off the noise. If it's only on one channel in a dense mix, you won't notice the difference. The noise level is very low. But if you have a lot of those channels = the noise is piling up and then you turn off the noise "with a click", let's say in a quite part of the song. That won't sound good.
I have automation templates for such channels. It's only copy paste and a few clicks, plus eventually dragging down the noise in certain parts of the song. That's a mixer's life. Never the same situation. You always have to decide.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
Can anyone else actually hear this noise in their projects?
I regularly use 3 or 4 on groups (in Cubase, and with analog turned on) and, obviously with no input, the channel meters read -~ ie silence. Ergo, no noise. Even when I put an instance of REDD in front, with the drive turned up.
Just sayin'.
And, er, asking.
I regularly use 3 or 4 on groups (in Cubase, and with analog turned on) and, obviously with no input, the channel meters read -~ ie silence. Ergo, no noise. Even when I put an instance of REDD in front, with the drive turned up.
Just sayin'.
And, er, asking.
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- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
I too seem to have little issues. I think it’s a consequence of people slamming their tracks with compressors, possibly for parallel compression reasons.Googly Smythe wrote:Can anyone else actually hear this noise in their projects?
I regularly use 3 or 4 on groups (in Cubase, and with analog turned on) and, obviously with no input, the channel meters read -~ ie silence. Ergo, no noise. Even when I put an instance of REDD in front, with the drive turned up.
Just sayin'.
And, er, asking.
Or they could be working with a lot of live “noisy” tracks and anything just added to that is more noticeable.
I must admit, I do find it intriguing as well.
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 2 Jul, 2012 from USA - IL
This is an older plug, but are you guys aware that when you put Analog 'On' on this compressor, it adds a brickwall limiter after the Output volume, so you can absolutely slam the output with Analog on and get some interesting results. Just FYI since the discussion is about the Analog function, it's more than just simulated noise in this case.
Chris H.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
It has auto makeup, but I don't think there's a limiter there. I rather think Waves would mention it, somewhere... The manual just says that the Analog switch "turns on the analog modelling".lunarchris1 wrote:This is an older plug, but are you guys aware that when you put Analog 'On' on this compressor, it adds a brickwall limiter after the Output volume, so you can absolutely slam the output with Analog on and get some interesting results. Just FYI since the discussion is about the Analog function, it's more than just simulated noise in this case.
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Yes, I can hear it.Googly Smythe wrote:Can anyone else actually hear this noise in their projects?
I regularly use 3 or 4 on groups (in Cubase, and with analog turned on) and, obviously with no input, the channel meters read -~ ie silence. Ergo, no noise. Even when I put an instance of REDD in front, with the drive turned up.
Just sayin'.
And, er, asking.
It seems to be a standard Waves thing.
When you turn the analogue button on (or add 50/60 Hz on the CLA-2A for example) all that happens is it adds 'hiss' or 'noise'. The meters always hover above inf, never clear themselves. Turn analogue off and the meter goes clear. On Cubase by the way.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 2 Jul, 2012 from USA - IL
I don't know, I've heard folks talk about the brickwall limiter like it's a well known 'secret'. No matter how high you boost the output (the Manual output, obviously) with Analog on, it won't clip your meter. Try it out!
Chris H.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
I will - it's probably either a bug or an undocumented "feature".lunarchris1 wrote:I don't know, I've heard folks talk about the brickwall limiter like it's a well known 'secret'. No matter how high you boost the output (the Manual output, obviously) with Analog on, it won't clip your meter. Try it out!