baseline compression
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 18 posts since 10 Apr, 2014
In my mix I have a solid baseline atm but it is a bit too loud in the mix. I want it to be a little quieter but to sit better with the mix. Do I use compression for this? Is so should I compress it during the mixdown or should I wait and compress it during the mastering stage?? Help is greatly appreciated!!
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- KVRAF
- 2550 posts since 13 Mar, 2004
Is this a bassline played via MIDI triggering a synth VSTi ?
Then you can do a lot apart from compression to alter it to sit better in the mix.
(altering note velocity, changing envelopes/filter etc. on the synth).
In other words you can alter the sound source directly which is always my first approach before using compression.
If this doesn't give you the desired results, than yes, compression is also a way.
Then I'd compress it already during mixdown, because at the mastering stage, it's obvious that you compress the track as a whole and not just the bassline (it's bassline not baseline btw. ), (unless you're using a multi-band compressor).
Then you can do a lot apart from compression to alter it to sit better in the mix.
(altering note velocity, changing envelopes/filter etc. on the synth).
In other words you can alter the sound source directly which is always my first approach before using compression.
If this doesn't give you the desired results, than yes, compression is also a way.
Then I'd compress it already during mixdown, because at the mastering stage, it's obvious that you compress the track as a whole and not just the bassline (it's bassline not baseline btw. ), (unless you're using a multi-band compressor).
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 18 posts since 10 Apr, 2014
Thanks for the reply! Yes it is a synth vsti but with three separate basslines! Any tips for editing the envelopes to make them sit better! Yes I was thinking about the multi band compressor btw. I'll experiment a bit and post results.
- KVRist
- 392 posts since 24 Aug, 2004 from under the big oak tree
If the Bassline is too loud, the best thing to do is turn the bass volume down on mixer. Compression helps tame Bass, giving it a controlled sound.
If there are a lot of other parts at same time as bass with snappy attack, maybe use envelope with a longer sustain on synth & comp with fast attack to flatten bass notes and balance it out. Or if if bass is too bold masking other notes pull back sustain a little and have decay on bass synth low to create more of a plucked sound. This can be reinforced with Comp set to slow attack(20-30ms) and a quick release.
If there are a lot of other parts at same time as bass with snappy attack, maybe use envelope with a longer sustain on synth & comp with fast attack to flatten bass notes and balance it out. Or if if bass is too bold masking other notes pull back sustain a little and have decay on bass synth low to create more of a plucked sound. This can be reinforced with Comp set to slow attack(20-30ms) and a quick release.
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Compression tends to make your bassline and especially bassline louder. First try to fit your bassline in the mix with other methods, such as mentioned volume control, EQ and sidechain + dynamics. You will bring it back to high levels later.
Alternatively, you may want to work with your favourite mastering plugins on to give you an idea what would your final mix be.
Alternatively, you may want to work with your favourite mastering plugins on to give you an idea what would your final mix be.
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Have you set the bass to mono and put it in the middle? That often helps in terms of special separation.
I think the right EQ settings can also improve basslines a lot, set them apart from other instruments with lower frequency content. A good 3-band EQ like the one included in Spire works miracles
Layering the bass and a piano patch is an unusual solution, how would that help?!
I think the right EQ settings can also improve basslines a lot, set them apart from other instruments with lower frequency content. A good 3-band EQ like the one included in Spire works miracles
Layering the bass and a piano patch is an unusual solution, how would that help?!