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Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kszLwBaC4Sw

I presume it's programmed. It sounds like they've chosen the wrong quantize value or something. Or maybe it was intended.Either way is it distracts from what is quite decent track.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:51 pm

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:54 pm

Sounds alright to me ...

CinningBao · Post by **CinningBao** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:54 pm

Definitely intended - it's a sparse, heavily syncopated beat at the points which (I guess) concern you. Be they played by an extremely competent real-world drummer, or programmed by some electro-whizz.. they are deliberate, and funky!

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:01 pm

Intended

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:01 pm

Kraznet wrote:It sounds like they've chosen the wrong quantize value or something.

You mean it is not four-to-the-floor, bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:02 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Kraznet wrote:It sounds like they've chosen the wrong quantize value or something.
You mean it is not four-to-the-floor, bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom

Not at all I'm a big fan odd time signatures or grooves but it sounds lumpy to me.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:10 pm

OK after listening to it a few more times it makes more sense. I wonder if it was played or programmed or maybe that doesn't matter anyway.It's David Bowie so he can do what he wants. Even more so now. I presume Tony Visconti produced it?

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:35 pm

Bowie has gone in the latest more to the avant garde, not as much as Scott Walker who he likes, but a bit to that direction.
P.s. Scott is great.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:39 pm

Harry_HH wrote:Bowie has gone in the latest more to the avant garde, not as much as Scott Walker who he likes, but a bit to that direction.
P.s. Scott is great.

Yes it does have echoes of Scott Walker. The video is pretty bleak.I guess a reflection of the times and dystopian future.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:40 pm

Kraznet wrote:
Harry_HH wrote:Bowie has gone in the latest more to the avant garde, not as much as Scott Walker who he likes, but a bit to that direction.
P.s. Scott is great.
Yes it does have echoes of Scott Walker. The video is pretty bleak.I guess a reflection of the current times and the dystopian future which awaits us.

lalo · Post by **lalo** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:47 pm

seems a real drummer
i guess is mark guiliana...far better than any quantized stuff

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:53 pm

Kraznet wrote:The video is pretty bleak.I guess a reflection of the times and dystopian future.

But he has been on that vibe pretty much since Never Let Me Down album (Day in Day Out) in ' 87. The Outside album in the 90's was cyber/dystopian also

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:59 pm

Kraznet wrote:I presume it's programmed. It sounds like they've chosen the wrong quantize value or something. Or maybe it was intended.Either way is it distracts from what is quite decent track.

There's nothing inherently wrong or right, good or bad (in music).

I like this track.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:12 pm

It's not bad, and since it's repeated, it's not a mistake, it's art

If you like that, you might really like Talk Talk's "Spirit of Eden." Full disclosure, I'm a Talk Talk fan, I like all of their work. But, I love the drums on this album, reminds me of the fiber skin card for the Korg DDD-1. At any rate, it's quite different rhythmically from the Bowie stuff, but also not exactly mainstream pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSfGvuiFOWI

New Bowie song/video - is it me is the drum programming questionable?