KVR Audio

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:38 am

thecontrolcentre wrote:Only those who don't know how to use it properly.

An Ableton product rep once showed me one of his Live tracks and it sounded bad. That said, I'll be the first one to admit I don't know how to use Live properly.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:13 am

Uncle E wrote:
luckystrike wrote:Live is described as its sound quality bad by many pros. Because of that Microsoft Office Excel spread sheet UI? Placebo? I don't know the reason.
A group of stems sounds the same inside of Cubase, Logic, Pro Tools, and Reaper. The same group of stems sounds different in Live.

do you have any proof of this?
ie can you provide us with a mixdown from each of those hosts with the same stems and nil additional processing within the host?
or are facts the work of the dvil now?

gpunk · Post by **gpunk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:25 am

There have been plenty of null test that have shown that most host sound the same with stems (I am fairly sure Ableton is included in that though ?)

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:49 am

I have a feeling Live may be considered 'bad' because (if I can recall correctly) timestretching for beats is default, so listening to straight recorded audio may sound a bit bad unless you turn off time stretching or change the algorithm. But I haven't used Live since 5.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:37 am

Gee.

I guess we need to reintroduce this then...

http://www.image-line.com/support/FLHel ... _audio.htm

plus this little video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0

Interventionary move to prevent new DAW war....

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:57 am

Thinking about it, i have noticed quite a bit of host specific knobbery.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:08 pm

musikmachine wrote:Thinking about it, i have noticed quite a bit of host specific knobbery.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:44 pm

Uncle E wrote:I'll be the first one to admit I don't know how to use Live properly.

braj wrote:listening to straight recorded audio may sound a bit bad unless you turn off time stretching or change the algorithm.

That's the way to do it

ntom · Post by **ntom** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:56 pm

What happened to the conversation about bouncing booby anime babes?

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:22 pm

vurt wrote:do you have any proof of this?
ie can you provide us with a mixdown from each of those hosts with the same stems and nil additional processing within the host?
or are facts the work of the dvil now?

Sure, that's easy to arrange. I'll post something by 11:00pm EST, April 3.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:23 pm

braj wrote:I have a feeling Live may be considered 'bad' because (if I can recall correctly) timestretching for beats is default, so listening to straight recorded audio may sound a bit bad unless you turn off time stretching or change the algorithm.

Thanks. I'll do that.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:09 pm

ntom wrote:What happened to the conversation about bouncing booby anime babes?

Try 4chan.

ntom · Post by **ntom** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:14 pm

musikmachine wrote:
ntom wrote:What happened to the conversation about bouncing booby anime babes?
Try 4chan.

ugh...no thanks, that place is the hairy-ass-crack of the internet. A dreadful realm I never want to set foot in. It has spawned some of the worlds most disgusting creetons.
I'm not actually a big fan of bouncing booby anime babes, but I was just making the thread more exciting is all.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:21 pm

When you get as old and decrepit as I am they all sound the same anyways.

ntom · Post by **ntom** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:25 pm

hibidy wrote:When you get as old and decrepit as I am they all sound the same anyways.

You're right, they're always nagging you to do things for them, but they want some freedom, then god forbid when you want your freedom they tell you "No".

Oh sorry, are we talking about DAWs again? I thought we were talking about babes, or, women in general.

Anyone else noticed Host Specific Snobbery?