auto-scroll view with moving locator
- KVRAF
- 2695 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Sorry, I thought you misunderstood.
Perhaps the best solution is an option to choose either AS is cancelled when stopped or stay active?
Perhaps the best solution is an option to choose either AS is cancelled when stopped or stay active?
- KVRAF
- 12741 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Cfr my previous posts: I agree the AS feature needs some extra thought. I've added that on the WL. I'm currently concentrated on something else. Sorry that i cannot do everything at the same time. (no irony, i respect this FR)
- KVRAF
- 2695 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
I appreciate that I wasn't pushing it, I sincerely thought this would appease all, instead of sticking one way or the other. Makes no difference to me I don't use AS, I find it an annoyance
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
The most common implementation I see is that when the user scrolls beyond the range of the cursor, auto-scroll is temporarily turned off, assuming the user may want to inspect, or edit something in another location. Then when playback is stopped and restarted, the default setting again takes precedence. In other words, there's a persistent behavior based on user selection, and a temporary behavior based on the most recent user actions.
Cheers, Jon
Cheers, Jon
- KVRAF
- 2695 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Not sure if this idea is any good or how best to implement it, but here one way possible. How about another window that shows play position and the full composition. This window could be placed at top or bottom of the composition window as a track.
When you click on a section it would then appear in the composition window. Would something like that solve the problem?
When you click on a section it would then appear in the composition window. Would something like that solve the problem?
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 18 Jul, 2005
Wouldn't solve the autoscroll behaviour for me, but I'm a big fan of this overview / minimap behaviour in other programs I've used (the old game Lemmings comes to mind!), nice suggestion.sl23 wrote:Not sure if this idea is any good or how best to implement it, but here one way possible. How about another window that shows play position and the full composition. This window could be placed at top or bottom of the composition window as a track.
When you click on a section it would then appear in the composition window. Would something like that solve the problem?
- KVRAF
- 2695 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
OMG! Haven't played that for years
Perhaps this combined with jonljacobi's suggestion may help?
Perhaps this combined with jonljacobi's suggestion may help?
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
This would be nice, but the only way I see to do it cleanly is to put a playback location cursor in the horizontal scroll area. You could take it a step further and display wave and MIDI info in the scroll area a la Melodyne. (I wish I could embed pictures here). I love Mu.Lab's clean lines and it's very easy to get carried away with this sort of thing and clutter things up.sl23 wrote:Not sure if this idea is any good or how best to implement it, but here one way possible. How about another window that shows play position and the full composition. This window could be placed at top or bottom of the composition window as a track.
When you click on a section it would then appear in the composition window. Would something like that solve the problem?
Making the auto-scroll setting two-stage is a relatively minor endeavor, a cursor in the scroll area, not so much.
-Jon
- KVRAF
- 2695 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
It's a difficult one to solve that's for sure!
Adding to the idea I proposed, perhaps you could somehow enable this 'window' or 'viewer' to show any one track or tracks at a time?
It's inevitable that more features will add more clutter. Maybe in a more reduced form is the nature of MuLab but still more clutter.
Not sure what you meant by:
but the only way I see to do it cleanly is to put a playback location cursor in the horizontal scroll area.
If you mean in the full composition window, I did mention that. Did you mean something else?
Adding to the idea I proposed, perhaps you could somehow enable this 'window' or 'viewer' to show any one track or tracks at a time?
It's inevitable that more features will add more clutter. Maybe in a more reduced form is the nature of MuLab but still more clutter.
Not sure what you meant by:
but the only way I see to do it cleanly is to put a playback location cursor in the horizontal scroll area.
If you mean in the full composition window, I did mention that. Did you mean something else?
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
No, I meant in the actual horizontal scroll bar, which is generally representative of the length of the song, or could be. In any window where there's a time line.
- KVRAF
- 2695 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Oh yeah I see what you mean. Hmm... A window as a track would give more info and could be enhanced to do zoom in on other stuff, but, maybe not useful??? Whereas the line in the scrollbar is, like you say, easier to implement
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Thankfully, we have a great developer who'll make the best choice! Melodyne does exactly what you're saying (I think...), but all within the scroll bar. It's pretty slick and you drag the edges of the scroll handle to change the zoom. Check out the trial version.
- KVRian
- 1441 posts since 4 Oct, 2012 from Utah
I like how zoom/scroll is handled right now. Mouse wheel to zoom. Right click to quickly navigate around. Scroll bars for large distances when zoomed in. Just my opinion though
My Setup.
Now goes by Eurydice(Izzy) - she/her
Now goes by Eurydice(Izzy) - she/her
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
I'm fine with the navigation as well, but I would like the auto-scroll to be persistent. And Melodyne's scroll bar is slick. Check it out.